Posted on 01/02/2017 4:25:11 AM PST by BlessedBeGod
...If the Church were to change its rules on shared Eucharistic Communion it would go against Revelation and the Magisterium, leading Christians to commit blasphemy and sacrilege, an Italian theologian has warned.
Drawing on the Churchs teaching based on Sacred Scripture and Tradition, Msgr. Nicola Bux, a former consulter to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, stressed that non-Catholic Christians must have undertaken baptism and confirmation in the Catholic Church, and repented of grave sin through sacramental confession, in order to be able to receive Jesus in the Eucharist.
Msgr. Bux was responding to the Register about concerns that elements of the current pontificate might be sympathetic of a form of open Communion proposed by the German Protestant theologian, Jürgen Moltmann.
The concerns have arisen primarily due to the Holy Fathers own comments on Holy Communion and Lutherans, his apparent support for some remarried divorcees to receive Holy Communion, and how others have used his frequently repeated maxim about the Eucharist: that it is not a prize for the perfect, but a powerful medicine and nourishment for the weak.
The debate specifically over intercommunion with Christian denominations follows recent remarks by Cardinal Walter Kasper who, in a Dec. 10 interview with Avvenire, said he hopes Pope Francis next declaration will open the way for intercommunion with other denominations in special cases.
The German theologian said shared Eucharistic communion is just a matter of time, and that the Popes recent participation in the Reformation commemoration in Lund has given a new thrust to the ecumenical process.
Pope Francis has often expressed his admiration for Cardinal Kaspers theology whose thinking has significantly influenced the priorities of this pontificate, particularly on the Eucharist.
For Moltmann, Holy Communion is the Lord's supper, not something organized by a church or a denomination...
(Excerpt) Read more at ncregister.com ...
Fixed.
With Latin being the last.
Elsie 1:3.5
...and the head of the church is the pope.
Except the present one: he's a jerk!
Elsie 1:3.6
If your math skilz wuz gud, these guys;
Buying bread from a
man in Brussels
He was six-foot-four
and full of muscles
I said, do you speak-a
my language
He just smiled and
gave me a
vegemite sandwich
You do remember how the counting goes!
Not to be confused with how it really does go, in the larger economy (I think...)
The truly Universal "economy". That is, according to the real ah, accounting firm, the one up in the sky, which interestingly enough is the only One who's ledger truly, uh, counts.
What's in your
sub-atomic
particle?
... is the pope.
Except the present one: he’s a jerk!
The “present one” isn’t one.
See the links to Novus Ordo Watch in the posts recorded below and note that the jerk of whom you speak was rejected by God and is not an actual pope therefore, in spite of all the sheep’s clothing “Francis” may put on.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3509997/posts?page=234#234
http://freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3509997/posts?page=319#319
You mean there's another one? Just like you, but with tricky spelling name change?
No?
Speaking about self in third person, are we then?
For all their worth, may well as be Mardi Gras beads that you be throwing at people around here.
If you're still trying to rope people into Catholicism, while you're at all of this effort, maybe try using a lasso, throwing one of those at their heads, instead of trying to score ring toss with comically misplaced costume jewelry.
If you did it cowboy style, once ya' got 'em roped around the neck, then shoot, you could reel 'em in (so to speak). Then they couldn't get away no more.
Iffn' the fates are with you, you may luck out and there be a talented heeler catch sight of all the action, see opportunity to himself to join in, toss his lasso at the hoofs and heels (that's why they call them "heelers") and you guys could make a regular jack-pot rodeo out of it. Maybe team up, go ride the range in search of cattle.
You know what then man said.
If you love me, rope my cattle right 'round the neck, do whatever it takes to Wrastle 'em down on the ground, hogtie their feet, then hit in the flank with a sizzlin' branding iron, cut a notch or two in their ears...(there's more, but never mind the rest of 'cutting commentary' that could accompany this scenario...).
Should we reckon ol' St. Peter would be mighty proud of you both? Proud of both spellings of R & B's, that is...
But wasn't it Luther who said,
"It follows that the Church is essentially an unequal society, that is, a society comprising two categories of per sons, the Pastors and the flock...the one duty of the multitude is to allow themselves to be led, and, like a docile flock, to follow the Pastors" ?
Outright theft We here in NE said it first!
Yet according to this study, "among cities that do fall within the most populous metro areas, those with the most unpredictable weather are as follows:
Kansas City, Missouri; Oklahoma City; Minneapolis; Cincinnati; Indianapolis; St. Louis; Birmingham, Alabama; Boston; Milwaukee; Dallas.
Golly; what are YOU going to do about it?
Just WHINE; or actually PROTEST?
Should this not read:
Which city has the WORST weather FORECASTERS?
Oh; prove it.
Without using English; of course.
What is it with some who see antisemitism in every closest? Are we going to see Luther dragged in this next? This was not at all a red herring, your issue pertained to accuracy, and thus in my endeavor to be so I did not at all attack or impugn Jews , whom i defend as beloved for the father's sake and look forward to their conversion, but instead i gave authority to the Hebrew text over an English translation from your source , that, as was shown you , was not accurate word for word, and was "based on the electronic text (c) by Larry Nelson (P.O. Box 1681, Cathedral City, CA 92234 USA, nelsonlarry@juno.com) as found on the Internet in differing copies."
I was not discussing Job..
Did you read what i wrote or have you forgotten? I do not read Hebrew and your source does not show what all the Hebrew words mean, except per verse and if the English was word for word accurate. To see if it was, and before i found my source, i chose a text that i knew had many supplied words, which is Job 34:10, which showed me (and thus you) that the English translation of your source was not a precise word for word translation. I then found a more and helpful accurate source , which, as i showed, confirmed what you said, that the "the" was in the Hebrew.
In both sources the Hebrew text was the same as far as i know, but as also said, my source provides pop up texts for the meaning of each Hebrew word, plus the English shows the supplied words, which were not distinguished in yours.
but rather the Hebrew in a particular verse in Genesis which both I and the Jewish link correctly translated as "the woman" Do you have a valid argument against the Hebrew text at the source or the translation of the phrase about which I inquired ?
The ethnicity of the web master had nothing to do with my choices, so please refrain from your "against the Jews" charge. A devout Jew would prioritize accuracy, which i did here. Talk about a red herring!
See the links to Novus Ordo Watch in the posts recorded below and note that the jerk of whom you speak was rejected by God and is not an actual pope therefore, in spite of all the sheeps clothing Francis may put on.
Golly; what are YOU going to do about it?
Just WHINE; or actually PROTEST?
Neither!
My response is to attend and be faithful to the church as it was prior to the false council in the 50’s, in who’s company I join, albeit very small in size.
There is only rejecting and moving on.
That was a great post. I’m in near agreement with you.
The agree-to-disagree part: in my mind, let’s say a Catholic was trying to “save” someone he/she really really loved, like their child, I’d say that the Church is adamant that only the Eucharist and Reconciliation are requirements different from most Protestants. If had to focus, I’d say the rest of the doctrines are helpers.
As said many times, the Church points to Scripture as the basis for this line in the sand, which must be flowed down through interpretations of Spirit-inspired men and women (tradition) (there’s no getting around the need for this - even the original languages are different).
That’s all - agree to disagree.
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