Posted on 04/12/2016 4:26:25 AM PDT by NYer
The Shroud of Turin and the Sudarium of Oviedo “almost certainly covered the cadaver of the same person.” This is the conclusion from an investigation that has compared the two relics using forensics and geometry.
The research was done by Dr. Juan Manuel Miñarro, a sculpture professor at the University of Seville, as part of a project sponsored by the Valencia-based Centro Español de Sindonología (CES) (The Spanish Center of Sindonology).Transparency acetate on three-dimensional model used in the investigation of Juan Manuel Miñarro . LINTEUM
The study thus supports what tradition has held for more than two millennia: that the two cloths came from the same historical person, who, according to this tradition, was Jesus of Nazareth.
The Shroud of Turin would have been the linen that covered that body of Jesus when he was placed in the tomb, while the Sudarium would have been the cloth used to cover his face on the cross after he died.
Both cloths would be those found by Peter and John in the tomb, as the Gospel recounts.
The study “doesn’t prove in itself that this person was Jesus Christ, but it does clearly advance us along the path of being able to indisputably demonstrate that the Shroud of Turin and the Sudarium were wrapped around the head of the same cadaver,” Miñarro explained to Paraula.
Blood stains
In fact, the investigation has found a number of correlations between the two relics that “far exceeds the minimum number of proofs or significant points required by most judicial systems around the world to identify a person, which is between eight and 12, while our study has demonstrated more than 20.”
Specifically, the research has discovered “very important coincidences” in the principal morphological characteristics (type, size and distances of the markings), the number and distribution of the blood stains, the unique markings from some of the wounds reflected on both of the cloths or the deformed surfaces.
There are “points that demonstrate the compatibility between both cloths” in the area of the forehead, where there are remains of blood, as well as at the back of the nose, the right cheekbone and the chin, which “present different wounds.”
Regarding the blood stains, Miñarro explained that the marks found on the two cloths have morphological differences, but that “what seems unquestionable is that the sources, the points from which blood began to flow, correspond entirely.”
The variations could be explained by the fact that “the contact with the [cloths] was different” in regard to duration, placement and intensity of the contact of the head with each of the cloths, as well as the “elasticity of the weave of each linen.”
Certainly, the coincidences demonstrated on the two cloths “are such that now it is very difficult to think that they came from different people,” according to Jorge Manuel Rodríguez, president of the CES.
In the light of this investigation, he said, “we have come to a point where it seems absurd to suggest that ‘by happenstance’ all of the wounds, lesions and swelling coincides on both cloths. … Logic requires that we conclude that we are speaking of the same person.”
For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.—Luke 8:17
Related:
The Exposition of the Holy Tunic of Argeneuil.
Translated from the Spanish by Kathleen Hattrup.
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I don’t follow this much and certainly don’t want to argue but have heard that one of the main “dis proofs” is that the wounds on the shroud are in the hands while crucifixion occurred through the wrist bones?
He got beat to a pulp.../crosses self>.
This would then tend to contradict the carbon dating of the shroud to the 13th century. The Sudarium has a documented history hundreds of years older than the assumed date of the shroud
Someone reversed the story on you. The shroud shows the nail wounds in the wrists, in opposition to the medieval artistic convention of nails though the palm of the hand.
Wow,
Just Wow.
What happens to all the Saints and “Holy” people that has stigmata on their hands?
The Shroud does actually show wounds at the wrist.
The palm of the hand wounds are actually a notion I suspect arises from some unfortunate misunderstandings of how “hand” is defined in the source language.
This is actually a compelling piece of evidence in support of the Shroud's authenticity. The Shroud was allegedly dated back to the 1100-1200 period by carbon dating, but works of art throughout history that depict the crucifixion show the nails in the hands, not the wrist. If someone from that period wanted to make a credible fake shroud, then surely he would have created it in a way that would replicate the images that people would have been familiar with at the time.
It wasn't until centuries later that it was determined that it wasn't physically/anatomically possible to crucify someone with nails through the hands.
The 13th century result has been proven erroneous due to a repair known as "French reserving."
Unfortunately, the preservative medium in which the Shroud has been stored since the original carbon dating precludes an accurate result were the Shroud tested again from a pristine sample.
Interesting dichotomy, isn't it?
This is just incredible, thanks for posting!
I wonder about this because a few years ago on a one-country-a-day European cruise I chose a day tour of Monserrat. There's a definite spiritual feeling there, and some of the relics and construction go way back.
The guy who did the reconstruction is a little strange in this video, but it is wonderful!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNJPJ4JwHeE
Face of Jesus
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