Posted on 09/19/2015 8:19:29 AM PDT by Salvation
Near-death experience Many stories of those who tell of the phenomenon often don’t reflect what we know through Scripture
Monsignor Pope Ping!
This “NDE” stuff is bogus. Just tickling ears.
Topical post of real concern for our fellow humans who buy into the “indifferentism” that is prevalent in our culture. Thank you.
Near death experiences seem to be physiology rather than theology.
Is this a caucus thread, or a bait thread?
Reading this in view of the Monsignor gives one pause to consider the fallen angel Lucifer (of light) and his many ways of deception.
I’ve had an out of body experience, it was likely a NDE, which I had at the time of an auto accident.
It was more real than surreal, but there was a moment of peace, music and fauna that wasn’t there. It was not spiritual. I saw no lights or tunnels. I was 16 at the time and it took many years to understand the event.
> This “NDE” stuff is bogus. Just tickling ears.
Not when it confirms what my religion says....: )
Homestly I don’t think its bogus. I think NDEs do occur. I’ve heard so many that are similiar that there must be something to it because they occurred at times when the patient had no pulse. Maybe they still had brain activity. Who knows? Something does occur between the time they “die” and then “come back to life”. We just don’t know enough aout the phenomenon to say yet.
> Is this a caucus thread, or a bait thread?
Bait. Definitely bait. I bit. Hear comes the flaming...: )
When reading any account of a “near-death experience,” DISCERNMENT is always necessary.
I have had a single “out of body” experience that took place when I was fully conscious and making a presentation. In it I realized “I” was standing behind and off to the right side of my body which was delivering the address. I saw the audience and picked up on their facial reactions to what I was saying. It only happened for, perhaps a couple of seconds, but it happened. This was not a NDE, but a personal experience that has left me believing that OBE is real, but accounts must be taken carefully. I have extended that logic to NDE
“Is this a caucus thread, or a bait thread?”
Why would it be a bait thread?
This is one issue where the fad can be agreed by both Catholics and Protestants to be a money-making con.
It’s a fad, is non-Biblical, often anti-Christian.
I know there are both Catholics and Protestants that do buy in to it.
Notwithstanding this is a Catholic writer, I think Catholics may buy in to it a bit more.
“...it took many years to understand the event.”
What does that mean? (not challenging you at all, just interested)
“This “NDE” stuff is bogus. Just tickling ears.”
I wouldn’t be so sure. It happened to me when I was 9. I remember two things: I grabbed hold of the “silver cord” (Ecc. 12:6, its elasticity was bi-directional and consistency was spongy) and I heard the most beautiful music imaginable. The rest I have no ability to describe, except everything was white.
“Not when it confirms what my religion says....: )”
What if one contradicts your religion?
Some of it certainly is.
But the proof would lie in coming back from an NDE with information you couldn't otherwise have. And even then there is the question of the experience being an occult one and not necessarily from God.
There is a new movie out “90 Minutes in Heaven” based on a book by Baptist minister Joe Piper.
There was little said about Heaven except the wonderful feeling the bright non-earthly light and meeting family members and friends, but not meeting Jesus. There was nothing said about judgement or real entrance into Heaven or about salvation.
It was mostly about the pain and suffering he experienced after the accident, and his longing to return to “Heaven” and rejection of (and finally accepting) the help he received on earth from family and parishioners.
My daughter stated that the brother of a friend who had several near death experiences just saw darkness.
Was there a broken wheel at a well?
While everyone else was screaming, I just felt this incredible calm. That was close to 30 years ago, but I still think about it.
I’m curious, were you in an accident? Or what happened to make you almost die?
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