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To: Salvation; NYer; zot; tired&retired

When reading any account of a “near-death experience,” DISCERNMENT is always necessary.

I have had a single “out of body” experience that took place when I was fully conscious and making a presentation. In it I realized “I” was standing behind and off to the right side of my body which was delivering the address. I saw the audience and picked up on their facial reactions to what I was saying. It only happened for, perhaps a couple of seconds, but it happened. This was not a NDE, but a personal experience that has left me believing that OBE is real, but accounts must be taken carefully. I have extended that logic to NDE


11 posted on 09/19/2015 8:35:17 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar; tired&retired

Thanks for your testimony. Yes, discernment is always necessary.

Here is some more testimony on this subject: http://bswett.com/1993-02NDE.html


30 posted on 09/19/2015 9:29:38 AM PDT by zot
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To: GreyFriar

[[This was not a NDE, but a personal experience that has left me believing that OBE is real, but accounts must be taken carefully.]]

I think the proper response should be “It leaves a person with the distinct impression that it may be real, however, there could be another explanation such as a medical reason why our brains perceive that we leave our body- I believe it was a real experience, however, I’m open to another explanation IF one exists”

You could have eaten some bad tunafish that day- (Not being a Smart Alec- just pointing out that some physical cause (doesn’t have to be bad tunafish- could be something like a cold coming on, nervousness, anxiety, perhaps an overload of some mineral or vitamin- I’m just suggesting there could be other causes that we don’t realize) could have produced a brief ‘blip’ In the brain- people that get too much nicotine can get hallucination-like episodes, too much caffeine- same thing- the brain gets overloaded with crap and reacts funny-


35 posted on 09/19/2015 9:37:46 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: GreyFriar

My sister could do an NDE upon command.

I observed my mother testing her.

I watched from the door as my sisye sat at the table with no view of the other room where my mother was. My mother took three randon items, too include something from her purse and put it on a side table out of view of my sister.

My mother returned to the kichen and sat across from my sister and my sister becagan this concentration thing and her face then went blamk. I a few seconds she was ‘back’ and described the items on the table, what orer they were aligned, as well. This NDE thing scared my sister (12 at the time) and my mother promised her she would never have to do that again.


59 posted on 09/19/2015 10:19:03 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: GreyFriar

Here is best source of information on NDE’s. It is the homepage of the International Association for Near Death Studies: http://www.iands.org/home.html


61 posted on 09/19/2015 10:25:29 AM PDT by zot
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To: GreyFriar

That is what it is all about, to discern.


78 posted on 09/19/2015 11:23:06 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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