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Maltese Bishop: Remove ‘Barriers’ to Those Who Have Remarried Outside the Church
Catholic Culture ^ | 8/21/15

Posted on 08/24/2015 6:03:21 PM PDT by marshmallow

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Expect to see more of this over the next 6 weeks before the Synod.
1 posted on 08/24/2015 6:03:21 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

If that was a “sin”, I thought Christ died for our sins on the cross as atonement and propitiation for our sins? Please explain.


2 posted on 08/24/2015 6:09:34 PM PDT by WENDLE (How did Hillary get Top Secret docs out of the Dedicated Secure Network facility?)
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To: marshmallow

Very disturbing. Surely a handful of bishops/cardinals can not defy Christ Jesus’ teaching and that of the Church who delivers it in His Word. Surely they can not wriggle and squirm under a damp stone and succeed in calling it “practicums” and not changes to Dogma. Ridiculous.

They flatter Satan and it can not stand.


3 posted on 08/24/2015 6:10:11 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: WENDLE

Jesus died for our sins, but He cannot forgive sins of which we do not repent. People in “irregular marriages” or “second marriages” are not in a marriage at all. They are obstinate adulterers.

What we have, in much of the world, are bishops who do not believe in the Catholic Faith. They are traitors. They are angling for popularity, and they think the way to purchase it is to let obstinate sinners “come up and get a wafer”—which is what these bishops think Communion is all about.

Cardinal Wuerl, Dolan, DiNardo, O’Malley, and Archbishops Chaput, Cupich, Gomez, McElroy—and the vast majority of American bishops—are all non-believers who want popularity at the expense of allowing scandal and sacrilege.


4 posted on 08/24/2015 6:14:36 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: WENDLE

I am thinking about the woman at the well with her five husbands and the one she was living with at that time, she was not married to him. He didn’t say go back and live with your first husband. I took it as “repent, get your house in order, woman, and marry the man you are with.” Other interpretations?


5 posted on 08/24/2015 6:16:52 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: marshmallow

So Henry VIII was right after all. And all the English martyrs died for nothing. Looks like another generation is going to have to fight for what remains of orthodoxy.

The Catholic Church has been infested with heretics, homosexuals and outright Communists since Vatican II. It is the religious counterpart of the GOPe.


6 posted on 08/24/2015 6:17:36 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Sioux-san

The jewish woman was under jewish law which allowed for divorce. Jesus, according to the Catholic faith brought marriage back to what it was supposed to be. Also note that while a woman or man is civilly divorced, they can still recieve communion. It is the “second marriage” that is the problem. To go back to the woman at the well, she was with a man that was not her husband. Going back to her first husband may be the right thing to do, but Jesus certainly wanted to stop her adulterous lifestyle.


7 posted on 08/24/2015 6:30:12 PM PDT by rmichaelj
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To: marshmallow

If the Church loosens the bonds of marriage, won’t that loosen all sins committed against the Commandment “Thou shall not commit adultery”?


8 posted on 08/24/2015 6:32:09 PM PDT by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: WENDLE

It’s an ongoing sin.

Christ said to go and sin no more... not just go back to your adulterous 2nd marriage.

In a case of true hardness of heart where no first marriage truly existed, get an annulment.


9 posted on 08/24/2015 6:41:56 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: Sioux-san

Well it is obvious . You do not understand the sacrifice at the Cross for YOU. At the moment of Christ sacrifice, everything changed— Did it not? Or did Christ die for nothing?


10 posted on 08/24/2015 6:43:23 PM PDT by WENDLE (How did Hillary get Top Secret docs out of the Dedicated Secure Network facility?)
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How do you come to that conclusion? Really, you are way off base here. Repent, go and sin no more. Jesus died on the Cross for all of us sinners. What don’t I get?


11 posted on 08/24/2015 6:45:35 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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One must repent, and "repent" means turn from the sin. Since the second marriage is not marriage at all, but rather a public commitment to a relationship predicated upon adultery (sexual union with someone other than your original, true and lawful spouse), repentance means the must cease their sexual relations until the original spouse dies, or until the original marriage is somehow proven to have been invalid from the git-go (this is "annulment").

The remedy is there, and the remedy is repentance. We have a Sacrament for that.

12 posted on 08/24/2015 6:45:46 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: rwilson99

Sir, you do not understand Christ’s death on the Cross. What was that for,Sir? When Christ addressed the status prior to His Atoning Sacrifice , the status of God and Man was totally different than after His atonement — right? Or did He die for nothing?


13 posted on 08/24/2015 6:47:20 PM PDT by WENDLE (How did Hillary get Top Secret docs out of the Dedicated Secure Network facility?)
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To: pleasenotcalifornia

Which is why it Will. Not. Happen. My guess is that it will be similar to Humanae Vitae. The teachings of the Faith will be upheld (although with this pope there may be some obscutary language thrown in). Then many/most bishops and priests will ignore it. Any bishops that try to discipline errant priests will be told to tone it down.
We’ve been down this road before. One silver lining is that the younger priests are the more faithful now. As time gos on the priesthood will likely reassert the teaching on marriage.


14 posted on 08/24/2015 6:48:23 PM PDT by rmichaelj
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To: Mrs. Don-o

If you don’t repent— is that a sin? and are you saved by the atonement of Christ for the sins on man—— or not?


15 posted on 08/24/2015 6:48:51 PM PDT by WENDLE (How did Hillary get Top Secret docs out of the Dedicated Secure Network facility?)
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To: marshmallow

My sister is married to a divorced Catholic. They both go to church and he takes communion. He’s even on the Parish council, helping the pastor with the books. I don’t think all that annulment business is really necessary. He didn’t bother with it and he’s just fine.


16 posted on 08/24/2015 6:55:21 PM PDT by Cry if I Wanna
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You are absolutely saved from your sins by Christ. The whole point of the Gospel is "Repent and believe the Good News!"

Christ is the greatest of Lovers --- but He is not a rapist. If you decide at the end that you love your sin more than you love Him, He will not beat you unconscious, grab you by the hair and drag you into Paradise.

Though He would die to save you. And He did.

17 posted on 08/24/2015 7:05:43 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Save us from the fires of hell; lead all souls to heaven, especially those in most need of Thy mercy)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Well put. Repentance is a joke. if He died for your sins and you believe


18 posted on 08/24/2015 7:09:17 PM PDT by WENDLE (How did Hillary get Top Secret docs out of the Dedicated Secure Network facility?)
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To: WENDLE

He certainly didn’t die so his church could make him a liar.

I would encourage you re-read Matthew 19:9... denying the reality of marriage quickly escalates to denying all of scripture... not to mention denying the imporance of repentance.


19 posted on 08/24/2015 7:14:26 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: pleasenotcalifornia

How did that work out for Anne Boleyn?


20 posted on 08/24/2015 7:15:36 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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