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Now, it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some have chosen to see it as the final proof of the NON-existence of God. The argument goes something like this:
"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves that You exist, and so therefore, by Your own arguments, You don't. QED"
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
"Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.
The Scriptures describes this effort in nearly the opposite manner...God decides to whom He will reveal Himself. The rest are crowded out (Rom. 9). Paul notices that the instant response will be, “This is unfair...” But, that is precisely God’s prerogative.
Still digesting...but good job!
Well, the math certainly appears to be in order.
It’s just as dumb as it was originally.
This is the one area of my compulsive life I do not need proof.
Bflr
I was never good at math I guess I’ll just take it on faith.
Pascal's Wager is an argument in apologetic philosophy. It posits that humans all bet with their lives either that God exists or not. Given the possibility that God actually does exist and assuming an infinite gain or loss associated with belief or unbelief in said God (as represented by an eternity in heaven or hell), a rational person should live as though God exists and seek to believe in God. If God does not actually exist, such a person will have only a finite loss (some pleasures, luxury, etc.). Pascal formulated the wager within a Christian framework. The wager was set out in section 233 of Pascal's posthumously published Pensées ("Thoughts").
The wager uses the following logic (excerpts from Pensées, part III, §233):
1. God is, or God is not. Reason cannot decide between the two alternatives.
2. A Game is being played ... where heads or tails will turn up.
3. You must wager (it is not optional).
4. Let us weigh the gain and the loss in wagering that God is. Let us estimate these 2 chances. If you gain, you gain all; if you lose, you lose nothing.
5. Wager, then, without hesitation that He is. ... There is here an infinity of an infinitely happy life to gain, a chance of gain against a finite number of chances of loss, and what you stake is finite. And so our proposition is of infinite force, when there is the finite to stake in a game where there are equal risks of gain and of loss, and the infinite to gain.
6. But some cannot believe. They should then 'at least learn your inability to believe ...' and 'Endeavour then to convince' themselves.
God exists (G) God does not exist (¬G)
Belief (B) +∞ (infinite gain) −1 (finite loss)
Disbelief (¬B) −∞ (infinite loss) +1 (finite gain)
Also described as (I was exposed to this in a western civilization literature course in college in 1974. Makes me wonder if it is covered in college today.)
1. If you believe in God and there is a God, then you are +1.
2. If you believe in God but there is no God, then you are 0.
3. If you dont believe in God and there is no God, then you are 0.
4. If you dont believe in God but there is a God, then you are -1.
Good stuff.
Kurt Godel is an absolute genius. Of course his best work was the “incompleteness theorem” of which he is most known for. He was Einsteins friend. They walked together everyday to and from home and Princeton. Kurt Godel also did some work on Einsteins relativity theorems.
Godel did not publish his paper on the ontological argument for the existence of God, because he was aware of the backlash that would occur during even those days of anyone in the scientific community that might even hint at the idea of a supernatural being, and not be a full materialist evolutionist.
Faith rules. Mathematics, not so much!
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This is all very quaint but are belief in God comes not from reason but the wooing of the Holy Spirit.
Althought I have seen the quote “Math is the language God created the universe with.” I am sticking with Jesus’ words “Blessed are those who have not seen and believed”
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