Not to worry...You can use your iPhone for a quick confession:
Posted on 03/24/2015 12:27:30 PM PDT by Gamecock
Please do not put all Catholics into one bucket. Would you be upset if I said the same thing about Baptists or Lutherans?
How are you following Christ’s command “Love God” and “Love your neighbor as yourself?”
Links?
BTW, Luther is not my pope. I don’t venerate fallible human beings. However, many Roman Catholics on FR are quite taken by him. Just look up thread. Not 10 posts and they mention him.
Now that was pretty good. Also so good Catholics are taking up the NT practice of full immersion. Hats off!
Not to worry...You can use your iPhone for a quick confession:
First of all, where else do you suggest the book of Revelation go? (at the beginning?)
And, tell me, which Bible fails to place Jude second from the last?
And so what if Jude & Revelation are "last" in ANY Bible? (Are you implying then that the entire Christian church deems them as "bottom rung"?) Really? A ridiculous argument.
Do you see how half of your argument here is utterly decimated?
So, this argument of yours here says absolutely ZERO about Jude & Revelation.
As for Hebrews, I already quoted Luther in my last post what his thoughts were on Hebrews. Anyway, so he transposed Peter's & John's epistles with Hebrews & James. So what?
Luther loved parts of the Bible, and had an incredible contempt for other parts of the Bible. “James is an Epistle of straw”.
This was Luther's conclusion in 1522, but was dropped thereafter in many republishing of his work thru the last 23 years of his life.
Contempt? If you said a book had "many good sayings in them," would you describe that as contemptuous? (Well that was a counterbalanced Luther summary of the book of James)
You see, this is the problem where you attempt to isolate a single quote Luther made before age 40 and attempt to construct an entire animus and worldview upon it!
Martin Luther, Works Erlangen Edition and Martin Luther Table Talk or Tischreden for the rest.
If Roman Catholics are so 'taken with Luther' how come you were the first one to post a chocolate-box picture of him in an attempt to win an argument?
Catholic.com
Easy to remember, and second only to the Vatican in terms of popularity among Catholics.
It’s a tremendous resource.
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The Bible ALONE as the SOLE or ULTIMATE rule of faith?
You can search forever, but you won’t find it in the Bible.
Luther made it up.
But you will find this:
“If he won’t listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector.” —Jesus
Using the criteria of those who signed either the Declaration, Articles of Confederation, Constitution or served in the first Congress they come up with a number of 204 founding fathers.
| Religious Affiliation of U.S. Founding Fathers | # of | % of |
| Episcopalian/Anglican | 88 | 54.7% |
| Presbyterian | 30 | 18.6% |
| Congregationalist | 27 | 16.8% |
| Quaker | 7 | 4.3% |
| Dutch Reformed/German Reformed | 6 | 3.7% |
| Lutheran | 5 | 3.1% |
| Catholic | 3 | 1.9% |
| Huguenot | 3 | 1.9% |
| Unitarian | 3 | 1.9% |
| Methodist | 2 | 1.2% |
| Calvinist | 1 | 0.6% |
| TOTAL | 204 |
This seems more in line with what I learned studying history. The few I know in detail about were Anglicans. John Hancock was the son and grandson of an Anglican pastor, for instance.
Got sources for your claim? Perhaps there is ambiguity about some of these categories.
The Catholic claim you mention I find ridiculous, for the same reason. And yes, Catholics did support the Divine Right of Kings for many centuries, that too is simply a fact.
I second that motion, and recommend we proceed to a full vote on the floor. :)
Peace,
SR
Well put!
Now that right there is funny I don't care who ya are!! Facts don't matter to you or what?
Wow! Just wow!
Wow! Just wow!
I know! I was shocked too. That's another area where we differ - Protestant men don't wear lipstick.
LOL!!
Well, let's think about that a bit.
According to the Inspired Word of God (aka The Bible) and if you wish, according to church tradition since it is recorded in the book of The Acts of the Apostles, the Bereans followed the principle of “Sola Scriptura” even though such wording is not in the Bible.
But then again, "Trinity" is not in the Bible either. The word that is. The doctrine is clearly stated as would be “Sola Scriptura” baced on THIS Scripture.
It’s not a single quote, but it’s based on his work of translating and compiling his version of the Bible.
Luther on Revelation: “For myself, I think it approximates the Fourth Book of Esdras; 8 I can in no way detect that the Holy Spirit produced it.”
If we looked at the entire life of Martin Luther, we would see a mixed bag... a man of great kindness and who brought many needed reformations to the church but also someone who would often write goofy things like “The Estate of Marriage”.
But their’s plenty of writings that show that ML was not someone who had great reverence for the Scripture, ALL the scripture, as it is written.
“Also so good Catholics are taking up the NT practice of full immersion.”
Taking up?
I prefer Confession the old fashioned way: John 20:19-23; 2 Corinthians 2:10 (in just about any Bible translation before 1965).
That's OK, you are already sleeping with the real ethnic-cleansers.
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