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[Roman_War_Criminal]

Here’s your answer:

http://www.gotquestions.org/did-Jesus-go-to-hell.html

[N. Theknow]

The demons and impure spirits knew Jesus and called him by name and called him the Son of God.

Matthew 8:28 - 28 When he arrived at the other side in the region of the Gadarenes,[a] two demon-possessed men coming from the tombs met him. They were so violent that no one could pass that way. 29 “What do you want with us, Son of God?” they shouted. “Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?” 30 Some distance from them a large herd of pigs was feeding. 31 The demons begged Jesus, “If you drive us out, send us into the herd of pigs.” 32 He said to them, “Go!” So they came out and went into the pigs, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the lake and died in the water.

In my Sunday School classes, I always refer to this as the origin of deviled ham.

And yet so many others when informed of His acts and scripture deny Him.

If he did descend to Hell, it was to put the place on notice that scripture had been fulfilled and he was the Risen Lord.

[JohnBrowdie]

according to catholic doctrine, the patriarchs died in the friendship of God, but, since they lived (and died) before Christ, they could not enter into the kindgom of heaven.

so, the idea is that Christ retrieved them from purgatory. that’s what he was doing for those three missing days before he was resurrected.

[.45 Long Colt]

Great post! Over the years I have run into people who believe Jesus literally burned in hell for three days and they would probably fight you over it. I don’t understand wanting to believe that.

[LeoMcNeil]

The Apostles Creed is, unfortunately, confusing on this particular issue. “He descended into Hell” is a reference to Christ dying on the cross (ie: going to the grave), he did not literally descend into Hell. We know this for two reasons. First, Christ declared his work finished on the Cross. Meaning that his redemptive work was complete, his punishment in our place was completed when he declared “it is finished.” Second, he told the thief being crucified with him that “today I will see you in paradise.” If Christ literally descended into Hell, he was lying to the thief.

[ravenwolf]

I would imagine that the word hell could have more than one meaning.

Revelation 20
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

So verse 13 indicates there was something referred to as hell but it was before the second death so probably had a different meaning than the hell after Judgment day.

[Spunky]

Ping for later.

[CynicalBear]

Not sure he did a very good job of that. This is one area I have always thought that translators did a really poor job on. It causes much confusion among Christians and their understanding of the idea of hell.

The word hell is used indiscriminately where it shouldn't be. The different words that have been translated hell are;

tartarōsas - (tartaróō) is a Greek name for the under-world, especially the abode of the damned – hence to cast into hell" (A-S); to send into the subterranean abyss reserved for demons and the damned.

hadés - properly, the "unseen place," referring to the (invisible) realm in which all the dead reside, i.e. the present dwelling place of all the departed (deceased); Hades.

Hades also in all probability had two parts because it is where both Abraham and the rich man were. The rich man in torment and Abraham in peace.

Old Testament.

sheol - underworld (place to which people descend at death) (sometimes translated - grave)

paradeisos - an ancient Persian word meaning "enclosure, garden, park." - it's where Jesus said the thief would be with Him.

Ge'enna - (Hebrew - Hinnom) - (a transliteration of the Hebrew term, Gêhinnōm, "the valley of Hinnom") – Gehenna, i.e. hell (also referred to as the "lake of fire" in Revelation).

[Mike Darancette]

To give those who had previously died a chance to be saved through Him.

[Revelation 911]

glad to see you here on the boards - hope you are well

[Elsie]

...insinuated in Acts 2:25-31, Romans 10:6-7, Ephesians 4:7-10, 1 Peter 3:18-20 and 1 Peter 4:6

I just HATE it when things are hinted at, and then I have to go track them down!

Show me INSINUATE!!

 

 

Acts 2:25-31  New International Version (NIV)

²⁵ David said about him:

“‘I saw the Lord always before me.
    Because he is at my right hand,
    I will not be shaken.
²⁶ Therefore my heart is glad and my tongue rejoices;
    my body also will rest in hope,
²⁷ because you will not abandon me to the realm of the dead,
    you will not let your holy one see decay.
²⁸ You have made known to me the paths of life;
    you will fill me with joy in your presence.’^[a]

²⁹ “Fellow Israelites, I can tell you confidently that the patriarch David died and was buried, and his tomb is here to this day. ³⁰ But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that he would place one of his descendants on his throne. ³¹ Seeing what was to come, he spoke of the resurrection of the Messiah, that he was not abandoned to the realm of the dead, nor did his body see decay.

 

Romans 10:6-7 New International Version (NIV)

⁶ But the righteousness that is by faith says: “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’”^[a] (that is, to bring Christ down) ⁷ “or ‘Who will descend into the deep?’”^[b] (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).

 

Ephesians 4:7-10  New International Version (NIV)

⁷ But to each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it. ⁸ This is why it^[a] says:

“When he ascended on high,
    he took many captives
    and gave gifts to his people.”^[b]

⁹ (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions^[c]? ¹⁰ He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.)

 

1 Peter 3:18-20  New International Version (NIV)

¹⁸ For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit. ¹⁹ After being made alive,^[a] he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits— ²⁰ to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water,

 

1 Peter 4:6  New International Version (NIV)

⁶ For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead, so that they might be judged according to human standards in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit.

[Lazamataz]

Did Christ go to hell after he died?

No. I don't think New York State was even founded yet.

[SgtHooper]

Yes! To put all on notice that HE is the Christ, the Son of God, above all others, even all those in hell and who are over hell.

[caww]

Good read....thanks for posting this.

[StormPrepper]

Why is it that Christ’s true followers, when He walked the earth, knew exactly what happened after death, but yet you don’t?

The original Apostles knew and explained it in detail to members of Christ’s Church. They all knew the truth in great detail.

The message they gave was clear; here’s the truth, no need for debate. And it was all necessary knowledge. None of it was trivia. This was information His followers needed to prepare them for the eternities.

But you don’t have even 1000th of the knowledge they had. So, if you’re the “true” body of Christ, why is God treating you different?

Because not only has God not given you any additional knowledge, not in 2000 years...he’s taken away almost all that He originally gave.

I mean God spoke to His prophets and Apostles face to face and gave them great details. The prophets and Apostles went out and relayed that information to the people of Christ’s Church. They probably had lengthy lectures on the subjects.... There was no debate among Christ’s true Church when they were taught the truths of the eternities.

Soooo... why isn’t He making sure you’re treated the same as His other followers?

I find all of your acceptance of this condition to be...curious.

Matt 15:
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

Let them a lone. Which God has done to these man made churches. They worship Him in vain.

Those are the words of Christ Himself.

Remember His warning of what He’s going to do at the judgement:

Luke13:
26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.

27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.

Christ’s own words. All these people that believe on Jesus, but He’s going to cast them out at the Judgement. Those are His words.

*Sigh

[stuck_in_new_orleans]

First sentence is “on my personal blog”....

Nobody cares about your blog, blog pimp

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

-— She’ol was translated into Latin as inferna. -—

And then, “hell.” It’s simply a bad translation.

[stonehouse01]

You thought you would tackle it? On what authority? Why is your opinion superior to say, St. Thomas Aquinas?

or how about the bible itself? Catholics take these literally when supporting the creed.

He decended into hell:

Ephesians 4:9

Acts 2:24

1 Peter 3:19

Hosea 13:14

Zech 9:11

Colossians 2:15

Psalm 23:7

Ecclesiaticus 24:45

As usual, protestants are the one who interpret the bible less literally. For Catholics:

John 6:55 literal, not symbol or metaphor
Luke 1:28 - Mary is literally full of grace - not symbol or metaphor

baptism is literally required for salvation

Acts: 2:38 - 39 and others

it is extremely interesting to find out that it is actually Catholics who interpret the bible literally, including on this issue that Christ did descend into hell, because we take the scriptures on the topic to be literally true