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The Immaculate Conception in Scripture
catholic.com ^ | December 6, 2014 | Tim Staples

Posted on 02/03/2015 9:37:18 PM PST by Morgana

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1 posted on 02/03/2015 9:37:18 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Y’all are really reaching.


2 posted on 02/03/2015 9:57:02 PM PST by coincheck (Time is Short, Salvation is for Today)
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To: coincheck

Fer real


3 posted on 02/03/2015 10:07:22 PM PST by doc1019 (Blue lives matter)
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To: coincheck

Sorry, Catholic doctrines are only for serious theologians based on irrefutable Petrine authority. Non-Catholics can go do their song and dance with Joel Osteens, Al Sharptons, or Billy Grahams or with the neighborhood Foursquare Church pastors and choose any one who agrees with you view of Scripture and sacred tradition. Isn’t that what occurred with mainline Lutheran and Evangelical denominations that now view “their” reading of scripture as allowing them to ordain gay and lesbians married partners.


4 posted on 02/03/2015 10:46:34 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Morgana

It’s no use quoting Scripture to Protestants. They will not consider any alternatives to their man-made Protestant doctrines.


5 posted on 02/03/2015 10:53:24 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
http://biblehub.com/john/14-6.htm

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

6 posted on 02/03/2015 11:43:00 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: Morgana

Is this the tractor story?


7 posted on 02/03/2015 11:57:19 PM PST by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: Arthur McGowan; Morgana; Steelfish

Gorilla Dust!! Read your Bible and pray!


8 posted on 02/03/2015 11:58:47 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: Steelfish

Hmm..or...one could simply have a relationship with God on their own and leave the religious/rituals for others to squabble over:)


9 posted on 02/04/2015 12:32:18 AM PST by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: Morgana
But first, I must say I am sympathetic to my Protestant friends, and others, who struggle with this teaching of the Catholic Faith.

But first, I must say I am sympathetic to my Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ, who accept this teaching of the Catholic Faith.




10 posted on 02/04/2015 3:13:06 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Morgana
But if you would like to dive deeper, click here.

Uh...

the clicker appears to be broken...

11 posted on 02/04/2015 3:14:32 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
It’s no use quoting Scripture to Protestants. They will not consider any alternatives to their man-made Protestant doctrines.

It’s no use quoting Scripture to Catholics; if it; by plain reading; does not agree with what THEIR church has convinced them of.

12 posted on 02/04/2015 3:16:25 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

You are wrong (an FR Catholic will tell you!)


Bernadine: …all gifts, all virtues, and all graces are dispensed by the hands of Mary to whomsoever, when, and as she pleases. O Lady, since thou art the dispenser of all graces, and since the grace of salvation can ONLY come through thy hands, OUR SALVATION DEPENDS ON THEE.

Bonaventure: …the gates of heaven will open to all who confide in the protection of Mary. Blessed are they who know thee, O Mother of God, for the knowledge of THEE is the high road to everlasting life, and the publication of thy virtues is the way of ETERNAL SALVATION. Give ear, O ye nations; and all you who desire heaven , serve, honor Mary, and certainly you will find ETERNAL LIFE.

Ephem: …devotion to the divine Mother…is the unlocking of the heavenly Jerusalem.

Blosius: To the, O Lady, are committed the KEYS and the treasures of the kingdom of Heaven.

Ambrose: …constantly pray ‘Open to us, O Mary, the gates of paradise, since thou hast its KEYS.

Fulgetius: …by Mary God descended from Heaven into the world, that by HER man might ascend from earth to Heaven.

Athanasius: …And, thou, O Lady, wast filled with grace, that thou mightiest be the way of our SALVATION and the means of ascent to the heavenly Kingdom.

Richard of Laurence: Mary, in fine, is the mistress of heaven; for there she commands as she wills, and ADMITS whom she wills.

Guerric: …he who serves Mary and for whom she intercedes, is as CERTAIN of heaven as if he were already there…and those who DO NOT serve Mary will NOT BE SAVED.

Anselm: It suffices, O Lady, that thou willest it, and our SALVATION is certain.

Antoninus: …souls protected by Mary, and on which she casts her eyes, are NECESSARILY JUSTIFIED AND SAVED.

13 posted on 02/04/2015 3:18:07 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
It’s no use quoting Scripture to Protestants. They will not consider any alternatives to their man-made Protestant doctrines.

What's comical is that you guys are learning this from a failed Protestant who believes you are not indwelt with the Holy Spirit until you speak with unknown tongues (without coming up with a required interpreter)...A guy who believes that you can lose your salvation during the week and get it back on Sunday by kneeling at the Pentecostal alter and getting saved all over again...

And he's got scripture to prove it...HaHaHa...

Does he reveal any of his private revelation he has and does get from the Lord???

Psa_7:15 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made.

14 posted on 02/04/2015 3:37:11 AM PST by Iscool
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To: Morgana

Is Mary omniscient?


15 posted on 02/04/2015 4:09:04 AM PST by tbpiper
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6. Mary is revealed to be the spotless "Ark of the Covenant" in Luke 1....

3. Mary, Ark of the Covenant:

The Old Testament ark of the Covenant was a true icon of the sacred. It was a picture of the purity and holiness God fittingly demands of those objects and/or persons most closely associated with himself and the plan of salvation. Because it would contain the very presence of God symbolized by three types of the coming Messiah—the manna, the Ten Commandments, and Aaron’s staff—it had to be most pure and untouched by sinful man (see II Sam. 6:1-9; Exodus 25:10ff; Numbers 4:15; Heb. 9:4).

In the New Testament, the new and true Ark would not be an inanimate object, but a person—the Blessed Mother. How much more pure would the new and true Ark be when we consider the old ark was a mere “shadow” in relation to it (see Heb. 10:1)? This image of Mary as the Ark of the Covenant is an indicator that Mary would fittingly be free from all contagion of sin in order for her to be a worthy vessel to bear God in her womb. And most importantly, just as the Old Covenant ark was pristine from the moment it was constructed with explicit divine instructions in Exodus 25, so would Mary be most pure from the moment of her conception. God, in a sense, prepared his own dwelling place in both the Old and New Testaments.

That's what I expected to find. A bald-faced assertion without evidence. And certainly nothing about enforcing her perpetual virginity by striking dead any man (Joseph included) who touched her.

16 posted on 02/04/2015 5:16:33 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Morgana

I never cease to be amazed at:

The abject failure of Catholic use of the Bible to prop up non-Biblical ideas.

The hardness of the Catholic heart that ignores Christ by focusing on everything else.

The pagan and magical thinking of Catholicism.

The inherent desire of the human heart for idols, demigoddesses, magic influcence.

Morgana, these posts of yours and others are revealing so much about what your denomination teaches.


17 posted on 02/04/2015 6:28:12 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: Morgana

I would have to posit that God could indeed have rendered Mary pure and sinless - He did it for David in the OT and then He did it again for all of us who have given ourselves to Christ since. Sin is sin and pure is pure. Praise God! I am saved and pure in His sight!


18 posted on 02/04/2015 6:45:38 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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19 posted on 02/04/2015 6:52:13 AM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd ("We are condemned by men who are themselves condemned" -- The Most Reverend Marcel Lefebvre)
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To: Arthur McGowan
What is interesting to me from a anthropological sense, is the hostility displayed over the Saviors’ Mother. JMJ.
20 posted on 02/04/2015 10:42:23 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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