Posted on 12/29/2014 7:55:13 AM PST by Salvation
We have discussed on the blog before the potential flaws in the mere statistical presumption that because there are so many stars there must be billions of other Earth-like planets in the universe that likely support life similar to ours. Why? Because it is not just one or two things that make Earth what it is; it is many, many essential things that make Earth capable of sustaining life for long enough that our civilization has been able to emerge. As these essential qualities are factored into the equation, the probability of sustained conditions capable of hosting advanced life and a civilization of intelligent beings drops very quickly.
Here are some of the factors that make Earth what it is:
I have written more on these matters in at least two other articles:
I was pleased to learn of a recent article in the Wall Street Journal that sets forth a “rare Earth” perspective and also points to the conclusion that Earth’s perfect conditions are so astonishing as to shout “intentional design.” The article, written by Eric Metaxas, is entitled Science Increasingly Makes the Case for God – The odds of life existing on another planet grow ever longer. Intelligent design, anyone?
I’d like to present some excerpts in bold italics along with a little commentary of my own in plain, red text.
In 1966 … The same year Time [Magazine] featured the now-famous headline [Is God Dead?], the astronomer Carl Sagan announced that there were two important criteria for a planet to support life: The right kind of star, and a planet the right distance from that star. Given the roughly octillion—1 followed by 24 zeros—planets in the universe, there should have been about septillion—1 followed by 21 zeros—planets capable of supporting life.
Notice how silly Sagan’s pronouncements seem now. Yet when he said them, many bowed their heads to “modern science.” And those of us who had “infantile” notions of a “God” or who thought that we humans were somehow special or unique were told we had to let our little “myths” give way to “hard science.” Almost anybody can recall Sagan saying with his erudite accent, “billions and billions …” as he referred to the likelihood of life “out there.”
I personally have no problem with science changing its teaching as new evidence comes in. But I DO have a problem with people who idolize science as the definitive word on everything, and with some (not all) scientists who get credit for having advanced the “definitive” answer to all things.
Can we please get over this “science as a substitute for religion” obsession of the modern age? Let science be science, a discipline that deals with empirical evidence from the material world. New information is always coming in. It is the nature of science to provide likely answers (e.g., hypotheses or formulas) rooted in current data. Physical science also focuses especially on what philosophy terms “material” and “efficient” causality. Catholic theology (faith), however, is rooted in definitive answers based on the unchanging revelation of God. It is not usually related to efficient and material casualty, but especially to final and formal causality.
Proper Catholic theology does not compete with the physical sciences and holds that whatever is true in the physical sciences will not contradict theological truth.
The problems and conflicts occur when many today want to hold the theories of physical science as conclusive (which quite often they are not) or to permit the physical sciences to claim to be able to answer or refute things outside the physical sciences, in the metaphysical order. For example, some scientists insist that the universe is the result of blind, random chance. But science cannot prove this and therefore should not make such claims. Formal and final causality are largely outside the realm of science. What science reasonably can say is that the existence of God is not something that it can definitively prove or reject. Science looks to secondary and material causes and must the leave metaphysical matters out of its discussions or conclusions.
The problems on the religious side come when some seek to claim that religious accounts of the origin of the world and the causes of things are meant to be understood as scientific language. Yet often, religious accounts of origins and causes use allegory, metaphor, symbolism, and epic stories to convey truths and they need not be taken as literal, scientific accounts. Religion looks more to primary cause and to final and formal causality.
Science and theology are often talking about the same things but using different perspectives. Hence, they need not be seen as at war if each respects its own discipline and territory.
With such spectacular odds [which Sagan set forth], the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence [SETI], a large, expensive collection of private and publicly funded projects launched in the 1960s, was sure to turn up something soon. Scientists listened with a vast radio telescopic network…But as years passed, the silence from the rest of the universe was deafening … bupkis—0 followed by nothing. Some reading this will want to get defensive and say, “There are lots of reasons for the silence, including the vast distances of space.” But read on …
What happened? As our knowledge of the universe increased, it became clear that there were far more factors necessary for life than Sagan supposed. His two parameters grew to 10 and then 20 and then 50, and so the number of potentially life-supporting planets decreased accordingly. The number dropped to a few thousand planets and kept on plummeting … Today there are more than 200 known parameters necessary for a planet to support life—every single one of which must be perfectly met, or the whole thing falls apart. [e.g.] Without a massive planet like Jupiter nearby, whose gravity will draw away asteroids, a thousand times as many would hit Earth’s surface. The odds against life in the universe are simply astonishing.
I listed just a few of those 200 parameters above. Note, too, that the argument being advanced is not merely a statistical one. The argument being advanced is one known as “irreducible complexity.”
Irreducible complexity refers to the argument that for complex systems (like life) to exist, many things must all come together in just the right way for the system to exist or work at all. It is not workable if just some of the things are present. All must be present for the system to exist and work.
Thus, for our eyes to work, a LOT of things need to be in place and “just so.” One cannot have just a retina. There must also be a cornea, fluid in just the right condition, just the right sort of tissue to form the lens, just the right distance between the cornea and the retina, just the right sort of muscles to adjust for the light conditions, just the right sort of photosensitive cells in the retina, etc. And those are just the macroscopic requirements. There are also many microscopic requirements of every cell, and every part of every cell in the eye that must come together just so for the eye to be the eye and to function properly.
It is hard to imagine how things of this complexity could simply come together randomly and blindly. But whatever the origin of complex systems, the statistical likelihood of them existing at all gets very small, very quickly when we consider everything that must happen for them to exist and function. And that is the case being made here about Earth and the complexity of life here.
Even SETI proponents acknowledged the problem … The early estimates … may no longer be tenable.”
As factors continued to be discovered, the number of possible planets hit zero, and kept going. In other words, the odds turned against any planet in the universe supporting life, including this one. Probability said that even WE shouldn’t be here.
Yet here we are, not only existing, but talking about existing. What can account for it? Can every one of those many parameters have been perfect by accident? At what point is it fair to admit that science suggests that we cannot be the result of random forces? … The appearance of design is overwhelming … the hypothesis that there is a Creator … gains in credibility as the best explanation of why we are here.”
I think today that many who bristle at “intelligent design” do so more from a visceral and perhaps anti-religious stance than from a truly scientific one. As said above, I am not asking scientists to declare that science can prove God exists. That is not the purpose of science. Neither am I asking them to accept the Judeo-Christian concept of God.
But if I went to Mars and found a fully functioning computer lab in a cave there I would be scientifically justified in concluding that intelligent life had put it there. I might not even be sure that it was “Martians” who had created it. Maybe the Russians had secretly gotten to Mars before us and left it there. But simply to conclude that there was strong evidence that the computer lab was designed and built by intelligent beings would not be unscientific.
And that is true here, too. The more we learn of the incredible complexity of life and of ecosystems and their irreducible complexity, the more reasonable it seems to posit an intelligent cause to it all, or to theorize that the many necessary elements were intentionally brought together by some outside force that is intelligent or purposeful. I do not ask scientists to suddenly line up to enter RCIA, only that they draw reasonable conclusions even if they are only provisional (as are most scientific conclusions).
Well, the combox is open for comments. I’d like to propose some ground rules because, sadly, most discussions on these sorts of topics generate more heat than light. (The Wall Street Journal article generated a LOT of comments: 2197 COMMENTS.)
So true. There are so many unknowns at present and so many possibilities. Perhaps life is common but not intelligent life. As you point out previously there could be different bases for life than our own. Indeed we have found this to be the case on our own planet. We may have overlooked something fundamental that allows the rest of the folks to communicate faster than light so we are simply unaware of the thriving galactic civilizations around us. On the other hand we may be the first, in fact we may be the only civilization in this galaxy or indeed the universe. We simply don’t have enough data at present to make informed judgements about other civilizations. As to the perfect adaption of life to its environment what else would one expect, regardless of initiating source?
+1 Fermi Paradox on your observation that alien civilizations probably don’t exist.
The extreme rarity of conditions necessary to sustain life on earth is hardly an argument for the necessity of a Creator. That is a matter of faith. One either believes in a Creator, or one believes that universe sprang forth from nothing and evolved into complex systems. Then one adduces evidence to support his faith.
Unfortunately for creationists, their Creator remains silent and hidden, and the only evidence they have for His existence consists of some very old, unscientific texts and their own sincere faith. Well, that and the fact that nobody can point to specific, reproducible examples of evolution following abiogenesis. One the other hand, those who wish exclude the Creator can point to a geological record that supports a theory of evolution. Abiogenesis remains a problem.
In any case, the argument in this article does not support the existence of a Creator: in an infinitely large universe, any non-zero probability is possible no matter how small the probability.
“Kinda like broadcasting signals for the sole intent of bringing attention to ourselves.”
Many scientific supporters of SETI quit their various boards when no one listened to them about actually having a debate before SETI instituted it’s active beaming programs. Supposedly they just did it with very little debate, and even smaller fanfare to the general public.
Freegards
Some of the criteria you propose are not essential for life. For example, Seasons and tides are not essential - bacteria live miles underground.
A while back, I read “The Life of Super-Earths” by Dimitar Sasselov (2012), an astrophysicist involved in the study of exo-planets, associated with the study of potential alien life. He reports that with the Kepler space telescope and a few other modern instruments, they are now able to observe planets transiting in front of their stars. The results of their sampling indicate that about half of stars have planets in the ballpark for potentially supporting life (one half to ten times the size of Earth, in the habitable zone around their star where temperatures could allow for liquid water).
They can’t tell which planets would be good habitats for us, but other life forms can live where we could not, like the bacteria D. Radiodurans, which can clog the drains of nuclear reactors. In many places where we could not live unsupported, like Antarctica or our moon, we can survive inside shelters with supporting equipment. One of the results of the study of life, is that once it has developed, it can be quite difficult to completely erradicate, just as life on Earth survived huge asteroid impacts and climactic changes.
The bottom line is that the estimate of one out of a thousand stars supporting life remains supportable as a conservative estimate.
Who said anything about a creator? Agenda much?
Specious argument, and wrong. Life exists at the bottom of the ocean, miles in the air, deep inside of caves, the antarctic, arctic... Your point is I suppose that it doesn’t exist inside of rocks.
There is no reason to believe that the Scriptures were ever intended—by either their human authors or the Holy Spirit—to teach scientific facts. It is unreasonable to believe that the Sun, the Moon, the stars, and the earth came into existence in a six-day period. There is ample evidence that it did not happen in that way.
What revelation does tell us is that the universe was created so that human nature could be created, so that God could become man.
“We may have overlooked something fundamental that allows the rest of the folks to communicate faster than light so we are simply unaware of the thriving galactic civilizations around us.”
I read a sci-fi story once where even though super advanced civilizations never were able to achieve FTL travel, they could plan on a scale of millions of years. When contact was finally made, they were shocked that humans had thought they were unique and had attributed bizarre theories of natural physics origins to things like pulsars and quasars. They were really artificial beacons letting everyone know they weren’t alone.
FReegards
My point was very specific, a ratio of biomass to mass. I consider less than one part in a billion to be rare.
You immediately tried to turn my point into something it wasn’t based on your feelings.
Not exactly ridiculous. The mathematics demonstrate that 11-demensional M-Theory becomes general relativity at lower energies.
Something is in there.
>>Why is it when a gem or metal is rare, its precious, but not so with humans?
To say the life is tenuous is not a comment on whether it is precious.
To a believer, each human being is a miracle, having the image of God within him. Believing that God has provided abundantly, there is little concern for the ability of the universe to sustain a large population. Each person is or should be not only a consumer of resources, but productive. I suppose there is some limit to the carrying-capacity of the earth under present technology. But, with freedom, technology advances and there is no telling what is the ultimate carrying-capacity of the earth.
To a non-believer, while life is tenuous, what is precious isn’t the individual but is the phenomenon of life itself. Hence, individuals may be sacrificed for he good of the whole (meaning, those not sacrificed). Viewing the earth as a limited resource, more people means less for each person. Therefore, population control, eugenics and removal of the undesirable to labor camps, these have always been part of the agenda of the progressive socialists. Progressive socialists are all potentially Nazis.
There are of course a lot of factors that are unique to earth, and the chance of one let alone all of them occurring simultaneously is certainly remote. A large moon, a fractured crust, a magnetic field, etc. We don’t even know for sure what factors are requirements and which are not. But the thing is that there are a lot of stars with planets in the universe. More than the grains of sand on all the earth’s beaches. I’ve no doubt God is powerful enough to create all that just so this one planet could support life, but it just doesn’t make sense to me.
Imagine some life existing in the universe for ‘billions’ of years, mastering all aspects of the natural universe, including travel by means about which we can only imagine.
Some might think they were god(s).
Just sayin’...
SETI would be incapable of detecting our own radio footprint (with just a very few exceptions) even from the closest of stars. For stars much further, it takes so much time that the sender and likely his civilization is long dead before the signal even arrives. We have only recently begun to develop techniques using specialized telescopes that will allow use to detect signs of metabolic life on other planets. No primitive radio beacons are needed for such detections, so why expect them to be used?
We have only been able to use radio technology for a little over 100 years. Who can say that we won't discover some other much better long distance communication technology within the next 100 or 1000 years? What arrogance to think that other intelligent life forms, should they exist, would be limited to using our current ways to communicate. It also is quite a leap of faith, if not unwarranted self regard, to assume that any such beings would even want to communicate with us.
Yes, some would. They end up in hell.
We can only go up from here...
No it’s not. Number one: Assuming that we are on a path to increased technology and discovery, eventually our disposable income will become gargantuan. This will be used to reach out, and even a small percentage will be enormous 10k years from now.
Number two: AI. Artificial intelligence will propel our interstellar discovery, and it will be self-sustaining. In other words, we won’t design craft, AI will design itself. And when AI craft arrive at a new system, it will begin replicating with available materials new starships. ALL OF WHICH will multiply upon reaching the next system. These new craft will be better than the last because AI in the future will be learning as it expands. It’s easy to imagine our own AI created craft returning in a million years and finally proving that there is intelligent life “out there,” us.
The Fermi Paradox - if life is common in the Universe, wouldn’t some be way ahead of us, and have contacted us by now?
A few possibilities:
- We are too dim-witted to be worth talking to. We are not much interested in negotiating with most other species less intelligent than us.
- the speed of light may be a fundamental physical barrier. The vast distances may fundamentally isolate us.
- We may be on the leading edge of the development of intelligence - perhaps the first to awaken. The book that I referenced in an earlier post, “the Life of Super-Earths”, laid out an interesting analysis of the timeline since the Big Bang. The great bulk of the time is required for matter to coalesce into stars, and for the heavier elements to form, allowing complex chemistry that could form complex organisms.
The estimates of the times required, indicates that we are indeed on the theoretical leading edge of the development of life, on a Universal scale. It doesn’t rule out another civilization being ten million years ahead of us, but it does indicate that we could well be on the leading edge.
Look how far we've come in a mere hundred years.....
Don’t doubt me on this: down is an option.
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