Posted on 12/14/2014 11:57:21 AM PST by ealgeone
The reason for this article is to determine if the worship/veneration given to Mary by the catholic church is justified from a Biblical perspective. This will be evaluated using the Biblical standard and not man’s standard.
Please read:
http://catholicstand.com/defense-immaculate-conception-part-3/
As Gabriel addressed Mary as Hail, Full of Grace, how could there be sin? Wouldn’t God have want a pure sinless person without sin to bear his Son?
Beautiful, thank you! Blessed is she among women, and blessed is the Fruit of her womb!
Thanks for the invite. Still no interest in going cultic.
No, he does not. You are obviously not reading my posts. I have no problem, nor do any scholars with the meaning "favoured with grace". That is NOT the issue. The issue is the Catholic position of "full of grace". No where in that passage or word can "full of grace" be found. The Greek word kecharitōmenē has NO connotation of "full" within it. A direct translation could be "you favored with grace" because of the vocative case simply meaning that it was Mary who was "favoured with Grace".
There is a specific Greek word for full which is plērēs. It is used when speaking of Stephen here;
Acts 6:8 Now Stephen, a man full (plērēs) of God's grace and power, performed great wonders and signs among the people.
It is NEVER used of Mary when speaking of grace like it does for Stephen. The only other time it is used when referencing grace is with Jesus.
John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full (plērēs) of grace and truth.
The phrase "full of grace" used by Jerome in the Latin Vulgate which the Catholic Church uses for it's translations is a corruption of the original Greek. In fact, the phrase "blessed art thou among women" is not found in the older Greek manuscripts of Luke 1:28 which is the reason most translations now do not have it.
The Catholic "tradition" of "full of grace" is built on corrupted translations of the original Greek documents.
You would see Bibles thrown in the trash?
Then you MUST also proclaim Stephen sinless. Stephen is the only one other than Christ that "full of grace" is used. But they don't do they. That would mess up their devotion to Mary.
Afraid to learn the Truth.
Your loss.
As you feel that the Church established by Christ is cultic, I am sincerly concerned for you and your salvation.
May you find God’s peace.
Time for a Bible Mary vs Catholic Mary TRUCE!
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/VxlKZereog0?rel=0
"thou shalt not eat the blood" - God
"abstain from eating blood" - as given to the apostles by the Holy Spirit
"It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing" - Jesus
Right on! And when, I pray for ALL of us, we get to Heaven, she'll be there with her Son to welcome us!
Awesome!
Let's see!
26 And in the sixth month, the angel Gabriel was sent from God into a city of Galilee, called Nazareth,
27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
28 And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
29 Who having heard, was troubled at his saying, and thought with herself what manner of salutation this should be.
30 And the angel said to her: Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found grace with God.
31 Behold thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and shalt bring forth a son; and thou shalt call his name Jesus.
32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the most High; and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of David his father; and he shall reign in the house of Jacob for ever.
33 And of his kingdom there shall be no end.
34 And Mary said to the angel: How shall this be done, because I know not man?
35 And the angel answering, said to her: The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the most High shall overshadow thee. And therefore also the Holy which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
36 And behold thy cousin Elizabeth, she also hath conceived a son in her old age; and this is the sixth month with her that is called barren:
37 Because no word shall be impossible with God.
38 And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it done to me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.
39 And Mary rising up in those days, went into the hill country with haste into a city of Juda.
40 And she entered into the house of Zachary, and saluted Elizabeth.
41 And it came to pass, that when Elizabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the infant leaped in her womb. And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
42 And she cried out with a loud voice, and said: Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
44 For behold as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in my ears, the infant in my womb leaped for joy.
45 And blessed art thou that hast believed, because those things shall be accomplished that were spoken to thee by the Lord.
46 And Mary said: My soul doth magnify the Lord.
47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
48 Because he hath regarded the humility of his handmaid; for behold from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
49 Because he that is mighty, hath done great things to me; and holy is his name.
50 And his mercy is from generation unto generations, to them that fear him.
51 He hath shewed might in his arm: he hath scattered the proud in the conceit of their heart.
52 He hath put down the mighty from their seat, and hath exalted the humble.
53 He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he hath sent empty away.
54 He hath received Israel his servant, being mindful of his mercy:
55 As he spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to his seed for ever.
56 And Mary abode with her about three months; and she returned to her own house.
Yup!
It sure does!!
So? What will Rome extrapolate from this?
Because; eh?
Rahab was a prostitute.
Where is HER thanks from Rome?
They do it all the time when assigning the sin of eating blood to Jesus.
No caber tossing, but plenty of bull slinging!
Here we go!
Yes...
You vipers...
A clear understanding of how the Catholic Church corrupted the scripture as given to us in the original Greek.
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