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Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?
Crisis Magazine ^ | November 24, 2014 | DENNIS BONNETTE

Posted on 11/24/2014 1:07:14 PM PST by NYer

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Pure myth! That is today’s typical view of a literal Adam and Eve. Yet, contrary to current skepticism, a real Adam and Eve remain credible—both in terms of Catholic doctrine and sound natural science.

By calling the Genesis story a “myth,” people avoid saying it is mere “fantasy,” that is, with no foundation in reality at all. While rejecting a literal first pair of human parents for all mankind, they hope to retain some “deeper” truth about an original “sinful human condition,” a “mythic” meaning. They think that the latest findings in paleoanthropology and genetics render a literal pair of first true human parents to be “scientifically impossible.”

The prevailing assumption underlying media reports about human origins is that humanity evolved very gradually over vast periods of time as a population (a collection of interbreeding organisms), which itself originally evolved from a Homo/Pan (human/chimpanzee) common ancestor millions of years ago. Therefore, we are not seen as descendants of the biblical Adam and Eve.

This universal evolutionary perspective leads many Catholics and others to conclude that a literal Adam and Eve is “scientifically impossible” for two reasons: First, paleoanthropologists deny the sudden appearance of intelligent, self-reflective, fully-human primates, but rather view the emergence of consciousness and intelligence as taking place slowly and incrementally over long periods of time. Second, in light of recent findings in molecular biology, especially from studies based on genetic data gleaned from the Human Genome Project, it is claimed that the hominin population (the primate group from which modern man is said to have arisen) has never had a bottleneck (reduced population) of a single mating pair in the last seven or more million years: no literal Adam and Eve. Many succumb to the modernist tendency to “adjust” Church teaching to fit the latest scientific claims—thus intimidating Catholics into thinking that divinely revealed truths can be abandoned—“if need be.”

This skepticism of a literal Adam and Eve begs for four much needed corrections.

First, Church teaching about Adam and Eve has not, and cannot, change. The fact remains that a literal Adam and Eve are unchanging Catholic doctrine. Central to St. Paul’s teaching is the fact that one man, Adam, committed original sin and that through the God-man, Jesus Christ, redemption was accomplished (Romans 5:12-21; 1 Cor. 15: 21-22). In paragraphs 396-406, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, speaks of Adam and Eve as a single mating pair who “committed a personal sin, but this sin affected the human nature that they would then transmit in a fallen state” (CCC, 404). “Baptism, by imparting the life of Christ’s grace, erases original sin and turns a man back toward God, but the consequences for nature, weakened and inclined to evil, persist in man and summon him to spiritual battle” (CCC, 405). The doctrines surrounding original sin cannot be altered “without undermining the mystery of Christ” (CCC, 389).

Today, many think that Pope Pius XII’s encyclical Humani generis did not definitively exclude theological polygenism. What they fail to notice, though, is that the Holy Father clearly insists that Scripture and the Magisterium affirm that original sin “proceeds from a sin truly committed by one Adam [ab uno Adamo]” and that this sin is transmitted to all true human beings through generation (para. 37). This proves that denial of a literal Adam (and his spouse, Eve) as the sole first genuinely human parents of all true human beings is not theologically tenable.

Second, rational human nature itself requires that mankind made an instant appearance on planet Earth. Paleoanthropological claims of gradual appearance of specifically human traits fail to comport with a true philosophy of human nature. Reflecting classical Christian thought, St. Thomas Aquinas demonstrates that true man is distinguished essentially from lower animals by possession of an intellectual and immortal soul, which possesses spiritual powers of understanding, judgment, and reasoning (Summa theologiae I, 75). While these qualitatively superior abilities are manifested through special forms of tool making or culture or art, they need not always be evident in the paleontological record. Sometimes true men share mere animal survival behavior and sometimes truly human behavior is lost to modern sight due to the ravages of time. What matters is that genuinely spiritual powers are either present or not, and that these alone bespeak the presence of true man. Irrational animals, including subhuman primates, are capable of complex sentient behaviors often approaching or imitating the rational activities of true man. But an animal either possesses a spiritual, intellectual soul or not. Thus at some point in time, true man suddenly appears—whether visible to modern science or not. Before that time, all subhuman behavior manifests merely material sensory abilities. The fact that positivistic scientists cannot discern the first presence of true man is hardly remarkable.

Third, a correct understanding of the scientific (inductive) method reveals that it cannot ever logically exclude the possibility of two sole founders of humanity. Natural scientific studies employ the inductive method of reasoning. Empirically observed data is employed to form testable hypotheses. Molecular biologists use computer models in an attempt to validate such hypotheses and reach conclusions about genetic conditions in early primate populations. In this process, some researchers have committed the logically invalid move of inferring from particular data to the universally negative claim that a literal Adam and Eve is impossible. Such methodology produces, at best, solely probable conclusions, based on available evidence and the assumptions used to evaluate the data. There is the inherent possibility that an unknown factor will alter the conclusion, similarly as was the unexpected discovery of black swans in Australia, when the whole world “knew” all swans were white.

Fourth, specific scientific arguments against Adam and Eve have proven not as forceful as many presently believe (Gauger 2012). For example, some have claimed that effective population size estimates for the last several million years would not permit just two true humans to have lived during that time. Still, the technical concept of average effective population size estimates should not be confused with an actual “bottleneck” (a temporarily reduced population) which may be much smaller. Effective population size estimates can vary from as high as 14,000 (Blum 2011) to as low as 2,000 (Tenesa 2007), depending on the methods used.

Such calculations rely upon many assumptions about mutation rate, recombination rate, and other factors, that are known to vary widely. All of this entails retrospective calculations about events in the far distant past, for which we have no directly verifiable data. For such reasons, some experts have concluded that effective population size cannot be determined using DNA sequence differences alone (Sjödin 2005; Hawks 2008).

Indeed, the most famous genetic study proclaimed as a “scientific objection” to Adam and Eve turned out to be based on methodological errors. An article by geneticist Francisco J. Ayala appearing in the journal, Science (1995), led many to believe that a founding population of only two individuals was impossible. Ayala based his challenge to monogenism (two sole founders of humanity) on the large number of versions (alleles) of the particular gene HLA-DRB1, which are present in the current population. Accepting the common ancestor theory, he claimed that there were thirty-two ancient lineages of the HLA-DRB1 gene prior to the Homo/Pan split (approximately seven million years ago). Over time, these “pre-split” lineages, themselves, evolved into the new additional versions present today. Because each individual carries only two versions of a gene, a single founding pair could not have passed on the thirty-two versions that Ayala claimed existed some seven million years ago—either at that time or at any time since. A bottleneck of just two true humans, Adam and Eve, was “scientifically impossible.”

However, Ayala’s claim of thirty-two ancient HLA-DRB1 lineages (prior to the Homo/Pan split) was wrong because of methodological errors. The number of lineages was subsequently adjusted by Bergström (1998) to just seven at the time of the split, with most of the genetic diversity appearing in the last 250,000 years. A still later study coming out of Bergström’s group inferred that just four such lineages existed more than five million years ago, but that a few more appeared soon thereafter (von Salomé 2007). While two mating hominins can transmit four lineages, the few additional later ones still require explanation.

These genetic studies, based on many assumptions and use of computer models, do not tell us how the origin of the human race actually took place. But, they do show (1) that methodological limitations and radical contingency are inherent in such studies, which are employed to make retroactive judgments about deeply ancient populations that can never be subject to direct observation, and (2) that present scientific claims against the possibility of a literal Adam and Eve are not definitive (Gauger 2012, 105-122).

Philosopher Kenneth W. Kemp and others have suggested that interbreeding between true humans and subhuman primates in the same biological population might account for presently observed genetic diversity (Kemp 2011). Such interbreeding is not to be confused with the marriages between true human siblings and cousins which would have occurred in the first generations following Adam and Eve, which unions were a necessary part of God’s plan for the initial propagation of mankind (Gen. 1:28).

The difficulty with any interbreeding solution (save, perhaps, in rare instances) is that it would place at the human race’s very beginning a severe impediment to its healthy growth and development. Natural law requires that marriage and procreation take place solely between a man and a woman, so that children are given proper role models for adult life. So too, even if the union between a true human and a subhuman primate were not merely transitory, but lasting, the defective parenting and role model of a parent who is not a true human being would introduce serious disorder in the proper functioning of the family and education of children. Hence, widespread interbreeding is not an acceptable solution to the problem of genetic diversity.

Moreover, given the marked reduction in the number of ancient HLA-DRB1 alleles found by the later genetic studies of Bergström and von Salomé, it may turn out that no interbreeding is needed at all, or at most, that very rare instances of it may have occurred. Such rare events might not even entail the consent of true human beings, since they could result from an attack by a subhuman male upon a non-consenting human female.

A literal Adam and Eve remains rationally, scientifically credible.

Since the same God is author both of human reason and of authentic revelation, legitimate natural science, properly conducted, will never contradict Catholic doctrine, properly understood. Catholic doctrine still maintains that a literal Adam and Eve must have existed, a primal couple who committed that personal original sin, which occasioned the need for, and the divine promise of, the coming of the Redeemer, Jesus Christ.

Editor’s note: The image above is a detail from “The Fall of Man” painted by Hendrik Goltzius in 1616.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Religion & Science; Theology
KEYWORDS: adam; adamandeve; creation; crevo; crevolist; eve; evolution; fazalerana; gardenofeden; genesis; hughross; originalparents; origins
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To: redleghunter
Murray made a prediction after the Mt St Helens eruption. It did not come true. Prophets make predictions and his did not come about.

Prophets don't make predictions, they make prophecies.

961 posted on 12/02/2014 4:41:40 AM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: redleghunter
Oh the “great deceiver” is at work today. I’m looking at some of the “fruit” of such with Murray’s heretical theories.

The great deceiver has been at work in this earth age since the garden of Eden at least. Soon you will be able to actually see him and hear him. He will fool everyone but the 7000.

962 posted on 12/02/2014 4:44:00 AM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Elsie
Have you ever seen these verses? What do they mean to you? Luke 1 5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth. 6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

What has that got to do with being perfect in generations?

963 posted on 12/02/2014 4:46:41 AM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: boatbums
If, as a few are saying here, Romans 11:4 is a prophecy of the 7000 that will not fall for the lie of the antichrist and that number “7000” is literal, then I guess the part about it being “men” is literal, too? So, we women won't have a chance???

Women are always included.

964 posted on 12/02/2014 4:48:46 AM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: editor-surveyor
Everyone that is born of the spirit can move about, invisibly, like the wind.

I think you read WAY too much into things!

965 posted on 12/02/2014 5:12:07 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Just mythoughts
Remember Lot's wife

?

But WHY?

966 posted on 12/02/2014 5:13:23 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Just mythoughts
Before I ever heard of Murray, I knew the rapture doctrine was a hoax. It flies in opposition to everything Written.

HMMMmmm...

1 Thessalonians 4:17
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

967 posted on 12/02/2014 5:15:16 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

Ca-ching


968 posted on 12/02/2014 5:15:55 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

they were both righteous before God,


969 posted on 12/02/2014 5:17:01 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Then we which are alive and remain...

Christians, heathen, atheists, everyone. This is the seventh trump.

...shall be caught up together with them in the clouds,...

Clouds of people, not the weather clouds...

...to meet the Lord in the air:...

Look at the word "air" in the Strong's, it's spirit. We will be in the spirit.

...and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

No more flesh.

970 posted on 12/02/2014 5:23:15 AM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Elsie
they were both righteous before God,

So "perfect in his generations" means "righteous"?

971 posted on 12/02/2014 5:27:20 AM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
"Universities give out honorary doctorates all the time."

As has been pointed out, you have a habit of trying to substitute one word/concept for another and hoping it will be accepted as the same thing. Once again, it's not going to work.

An honorary degree given by a university is one thing. A person falsely claiming to have a degree (whether honorary or earned) is quite another.

Murray claimed to have a degree from an accredited university after writing a dissertation on the book of Daniel. He said the degree came from Biola University in California. Biola University denies ever having a student named Arnold Murray, and, in fact, did not have a doctorate program during the timeframe in question.

How can you continue to excuse this lie?

972 posted on 12/02/2014 9:12:24 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: CatherineofAragon
As has been pointed out, you have a habit of trying to substitute one word/concept for another and hoping it will be accepted as the same thing. Once again, it's not going to work. An honorary degree given by a university is one thing. A person falsely claiming to have a degree (whether honorary or earned) is quite another. Murray claimed to have a degree from an accredited university after writing a dissertation on the book of Daniel. He said the degree came from Biola University in California. Biola University denies ever having a student named Arnold Murray, and, in fact, did not have a doctorate program during the timeframe in question. How can you continue to excuse this lie?

I went ahead and did a search. I can't find anything about this other than from false websites that also say Shepherd's Chapel denies the Trinity, so no credible website has any information on this the best I can tell. What objective source are you getting this from?

973 posted on 12/02/2014 10:02:12 AM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: CatherineofAragon
It looks like someone put the story on wikipedia and even wikipedia, as liberal as they are, removed it for being unsubstantiated.

The best I can tell it's all from the same source, a guy from something called "coutercult" (slightly biased, I would say) claims he got it all from a receptionist at the chapel. Wow, receptionists are that informed, huh? lol

I would think that this would have sparked investigations from the big players, 60 minutes and the like, but looks like no one except the countercult guy has any information on it.

974 posted on 12/02/2014 10:17:31 AM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Elsie

I read what is there, the stuff that you are conditioned to fly over and ignore.

Nobody is born again yet, but Yeshua.

That is what he said,and what Paul said to the Thessalonians, and the Corinthians.

Read more, skim less.

.


975 posted on 12/02/2014 10:21:56 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger; CatherineofAragon

>> “I would think that this would have sparked investigations from the big players, 60 minutes and the like...” <<

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The “big players” hate Yeshua, and love cults and anything false. They are of their Father, the inventor of the lie.

.


976 posted on 12/02/2014 10:24:37 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

Wow!

That’s a new way to twist English words!


977 posted on 12/02/2014 11:47:03 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
If, as a few are saying here, Romans 11:4 is a prophecy of the 7000 that will not fall for the lie of the antichrist and that number “7000” is literal, then I guess the part about it being “men” is literal, too? So, we women won't have a chance???

Women are always included.

Yeah, I know that, just like I know God's set apart remnant is not a mere 7000. So, it's literal when it says "7000" but not when it says "men"??? That's the point being made here in case you missed it.

978 posted on 12/02/2014 11:48:17 AM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
So "perfect in his generations" means "righteous"?

Yes; unlike your ASSUMPTION about angels.

‎11‎/‎28‎/‎2014‎ ‎12‎:‎03‎:‎01‎ ‎PM 557 of 978

No, it means the fallen angels hadn't corrupted anyone in his ancestry or his family. That's why he was saved, he was still perfect to bring along the messiah. All others of Adam's family had hybrid blood, blood of the fallen angels, those that left their habitation to take the daughters of Adam.


979 posted on 12/02/2014 12:09:37 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CatherineofAragon
How can you continue to excuse this lie?

I'd guess he has a LARGE chunk of his life invested in it.

980 posted on 12/02/2014 12:10:33 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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