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1 posted on 10/29/2014 3:04:39 PM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock
Judas Iscariot was not the only sinner among the Twelve Apostles but he was the one who “closed himself to love.”

Paging Captain Obvious ...

2 posted on 10/29/2014 3:08:42 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I am not tense. I am very, very alert.)
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To: Gamecock

I guess you and the Washington Post are entitled to write the news the way you want it.


3 posted on 10/29/2014 3:13:17 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Let the dead bury the dead. Let the GOP bury the GOP.)
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To: Gamecock

Judas did show regret at least. Monsters such as Mao, Stalin, and Hitler did not. And BTW, neither does 0bama.


4 posted on 10/29/2014 3:24:31 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. President zero gave us patient zero.)
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To: Gamecock

“Francis has referred to the role of Judas several times since becoming pope in 2013.”

Birds of a feather and all that.


5 posted on 10/29/2014 3:30:57 PM PDT by wheat_grinder
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To: Gamecock

Are we supposed to be shocked by the idea that all the Apostles were sinners? Aren’t we all sinners? I certainly am.


6 posted on 10/29/2014 3:33:32 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I am not tense. I am very, very alert.)
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Pol Pot.....just misunderstood

Richard Speck.....just had a nosebleed...

Susan Atkins was just hungry....a little confused is all

Pretty cool you know

/s


7 posted on 10/29/2014 3:35:10 PM PDT by wardaddy (todays republicans are worse than reconstruction era.....and that takes effort)
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To: Gamecock

God bless Pope Francis. He is a kind man.


8 posted on 10/29/2014 3:35:11 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Gamecock

Doesn’t the Church distinguish between venial and mortal sins?


9 posted on 10/29/2014 3:36:31 PM PDT by Paulie (Get off the grid.)
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To: Gamecock

The pope had another brain fart. Stop the presses.


16 posted on 10/29/2014 4:51:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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To: Gamecock

“Closed himself to love.”?

That does not seem a tad watered down to anyone.

He betrayed the Son of God. For 30 pieces of silver he not only rejected atonement for himself, but did not care if the rest of the world ended up hopelessly lost as a result. His later regret was not repentance, evidenced by his suicide.

What a strange way for the pope to encourage people to be more loyal to the church.

Judas rejected the one who was here to atone for his sins. He refused to accept the Lordship of Jesus. He was a fake and a phony, pretending allegiance while plotting against Him.

After writing the above I get it now. The pope is calling all those who leave the church or disagree with it JUDAS. He is equating the catholic church with Christ Himself. That is what it looks like to me.

Beware of elevating yourself too much.


17 posted on 10/29/2014 5:01:42 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Gamecock

It’s often quite difficult to know what to make of what this pope has to say. Some of this is certainly attributable to translation issues, and some, I’m sure, the intentional twisting of his words and phrases by the media. But the fact that he never makes any ever to clarify some of the more disturbing reports is, at best, disconcerting. This Washington Post story is typical.

Pope Francis seems to be suggesting that all sins and all sinners are equal. He can’t possibly mean that, since that is not the teaching of the Church. The Church teaches us that where all sin offends God, some sin (mortal sin) is much greater. We are also told in the Scriptures that four (and only four) specific sins are so offensive that they cry out to heaven for vengeance.

But acknowledging that we are all sinners (including all of the Apostles), there is only one person that walked the face of this earth that Jesus Christ said: “The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man shall be betrayed: it were better for him, if that man had not been born”. The man he was speaking about was Judas Iscariot.

Either Pope Francis is distorting this man’s history, or he is again being misquoted or mistranslated.


18 posted on 10/29/2014 5:25:13 PM PDT by tomsbartoo (St Pius X watch over us)
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They have to defend Judas somehow.

They have popes and clergy who some Catholics compare to him to justify their degenerate lifestyles.


30 posted on 10/30/2014 1:46:26 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Gamecock
Pope Francis: Judas was a sinner, but no worse than anyone elseelse

Fixed...

... but no worse than ELSIE

37 posted on 10/31/2014 3:55:35 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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