Posted on 10/29/2014 10:13:47 AM PDT by RnMomof7
.“When we read about Creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so,” Francis said.
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lol
Babelfish was so awesome, in a B-movie kind of way.
Of course if you use eastern languages, it Google Translate is pretty bad too
In any event, the whole context of the statement conveys a clear papal endorsement of theistic evolution.
You are correct on the “in love” part. I was just furious after watching a documentary on the sex abuse cases at the Catholic school for the deaf. How the clergy, cardinals and pope responded to that scandle and how they tried to hide it made my blood boil! Of course the church has apologized so all’s good, right?
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M-W Definition of DEMIURGE
1a : a Platonic subordinate deity who fashions the sensible world in the light of eternal ideas
1b : a Gnostic subordinate deity who is the creator of the material world
Agreed, but the popes have said this for a while. The shocking part to me was the “God/not a divine being”, which appears to be a mistranslation of “demiurgo”.
Proves only that you changed the report because you didn’t think your religious leader would say it.
That’s being less than frank.
What is this for?
Only Roman Catholic translations count? And only how Roman Catholics are allowed to translate?
That’s what has kept so many souls in religious slavery for too long.
True enough. But to say that God is not a demiurge is rather self-evident, isn’t it? And it begs the question by assuming that only a demiurge would create de novo. (As if anyone knew.) I wonder what the point was? It’s hard to believe these were prepared remarks. It’s understandable when such things are said spontaneously.
Nobody gots time for dat.
Francis did NOT say
“God is not a divine being or a magician, but the Creator who brought everything to life”
he said
“God is not a demiurge or a magician, but the Creator who gives being to all entities”
His speech can be found here:
http://www.indcatholicnews.com/news.php?viewStory=25869
The term “demiurge” is used by Gnostics and refers to an “artisan-like figure responsible for the fashioning and MAINTENANCE of the physical universe”
Francis did NOT say that God is not a devine being
The language of the demiurge come from the Gnostics, and was actually used of Christ by them to separate Christ from the Godhead. By using the “demiurge/Creator” division, I think he is saying that God is superior to creation, and not vice versa. However, I am not a papal apologist, not pretend to be one.
Yeah, found that a few posts back.
Must be.
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