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Vatican astronomer: Just a matter of time until life found in universe
cns ^ | September 19, 2014 | Dennis Sadowski

Posted on 09/21/2014 2:45:14 PM PDT by NYer

WASHINGTON (CNS) -- Jesuit Brother Guy Consolmagno, the new president of the Vatican Observatory Foundation, has no doubt that life exists elsewhere in the universe and that when humanity discovers it, the news will come as no big surprise.

He suggested that the likely discovery -- whether next month or a millennium from now -- will be received much the way that news of planets orbiting far off stars has filtered in since the 1990s.

"The general public is going to be, 'Oh, I knew that. I knew it was going to be there,'" Brother Consolmagno told Catholic News Service prior to a presentation at a NASA/Library of Congress symposium on preparing for the discovery of life in the universe Sept. 18-19.

A planetary scientist who has studied meteorites and asteroids as an astronomer with the Vatican Observatory since 1993, Brother Consolmagno said he hopes the questions about life on other planets will focus more on how humanity sees itself.

"When we say human, human as compared to what?" he asked.

While the discovery of life elsewhere will not prove nor disprove the existence of God, Brother Consolmagno expects that it will open the door to ponder what form salvation history may take in other intelligent societies.

The longtime Vatican astronomer addresses the same question and a series of others that cross the threshold between science and religion in a new book, "Would You Baptize an Extraterrestrial? ... and Other Strange Questions From the Inbox at the Vatican Observatory," set to be published in October. Co-written by Jesuit Father Paul Mueller, another Vatican Observatory astronomer, the book uses a series of easy-to-read conversations between the two in an effort to explain how the church supports science and provide insight into how religion works.

Not all is as black and white as people imagine, and there's no conflict between science and religion, Brother Consolmagno said.

"Eventually you learn that the kinds of questions you ask as a scientist and the kinds of answers you get as a scientist are only the kinds of questions that lead to more questions. They're all very contingent. Now I understand how this works, but that opens up a new mystery that I hadn't seen before and now I can explore that mystery," he explained.

"The bigger questions, the religious questions, they're handled by science. The religious questions give you the framework that gives you the motivation to ask the science questions, gives you the confidence the science is going to work and explains to you why I get this excitement at holding a rock from outer space."

The book addresses questions about the Big Bang theory on the origins of the universe and the creation story in the Book of Genesis; the circumstances surrounding the star of Bethlehem; the end of the world; and the church's inquisition of Galileo Galilei as he wrote about a sun-centered solar system.

"They're profound questions and they're real questions, but the questions aren't always what you think the words are saying," Brother Consolmagno said. "You have to dig underneath and say, 'When people are worried about what was the star of Bethlehem, they really want to know how much does God act in the universe? Did God make that star? Does God arrange things? Does God use divine coincidences?'"

Brother Consolmagno, who had an asteroid named for him in 2000 -- 4597 Consolmagno -- has long been a promoter of better understanding across what is often portrayed as the science-religion divide. He said there is no conflict between his faith life and his scientific life.

"I don't think people understand nearly well enough about being a scientist and about being a religious person, a member of a religious order or just a devout Catholic," he said. "It's fun. It's supposed to be fun. If it's not fun, you're doing it wrong. God makes himself known through joy.

"C.S. Lewis wrote about that in his book 'Surprised by Joy.' I get joy when I see a new insight into how the universe works in my very tiny field of science. I get joy along with a sense of contentment and peace in a church in prayer. I get joy when I work with the poor, when I work with students, when I work with the elderly."

In his presentation Sept. 19 bearing the same title as his new book, Brother Consolmagno suggested the idea of discovering extraterrestrial life may be so appealing to humanity, with all its pain, injustice and disease, that there is hope that "any race advanced enough to cross the stars to visit us must also be advanced enough to show us how to overcome all those human ills. They look to the aliens to be saviors of mankind."

Other symposium participants from around the world involved in searching for life on other planets addressed topics such as how society should cope with the discovery, astrobiology and theology, the moral status of non-human organisms and moving beyond preconceptions of what life is.

An avid reader of science fiction, Brother Consolmagno will receive the Carl Sagan Medal from the Division of Planetary Sciences of the American Astronomical Society in November. The award is being given for his work in communicating planetary science to the general public.

He also is planning the Vatican Observatory Foundation's first Faith and Astronomy Workshop for clergy, religious and laypeople working in parish education. Set for Jan. 19-23 in Tucson, Arizona, the workshop will give 25 participants the chance to participate in hand-on astronomical projects, join lectures and view deep sky objects at night. The application deadline is Sept. 30. Apply at www.vofoundation.org.



TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Science; Theology
KEYWORDS: astronomy; carlsagan; carlsaganmedal; fauxiantrolls; fringe; guyconsolmagno; ohsomysteriouso; panspermia; romancatholicism; science; ufo; ufos; xplanets
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To: NYer

I can believe God created life around the universe as He saw fit...

BUT WHAT’S WITH THOSE CRAZY EYEBROWS???


61 posted on 09/21/2014 6:04:11 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: NYer

I can believe in life elsewhere, but...

Why does he have a Michael Jackson glove thing going on???


62 posted on 09/21/2014 6:05:09 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: NYer
Brother Consolmagno suggested the idea of discovering extraterrestrial life may be so appealing to humanity, with all its pain, injustice and disease, that there is hope that "any race advanced enough to cross the stars to visit us must also be advanced enough to show us how to overcome all those human ills. They look to the aliens to be saviors of mankind."

Well, that would be a huge mistake! God has already given us the means to overcome "human ills".

And, seeing as it would take 100,000 years to cross the Milky Way traveling AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT, I'd imagine they would have been here by now. ;o)

63 posted on 09/21/2014 7:29:43 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: NYer

All that technology to study the heavens and they miss the Messiah’s birthday that is written in that sky..


64 posted on 09/21/2014 7:40:05 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: tet68

‘I’m just hoping we find intelligent life on earth someday.’

LOL...best response I’ve read so far.

Boy, I sure hope you didn’t have to endure the Tet Offensive on the ground. What a rough time for our Vietnam Vets, along with the siege at Khe Sanh.


65 posted on 09/21/2014 8:32:42 PM PDT by 82nd Bragger (Count to four except when in a helicopter)
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To: 82nd Bragger

I was there for Tet but not at Khe Sanh.
Was stationed south of Da Nang at Chu Lai.
Didn’t get much sleep those weeks.
t.


66 posted on 09/21/2014 9:35:57 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: COBOL2Java
Who knows, maybe someday intelligent life will be found in the universe.

And it certainly doesn't seem to appear to be here on planet Earth.

However, there already is, but referring to them as angels and demons just doesn't sit well with the intellectual snobs.

67 posted on 09/22/2014 5:50:29 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: miss marmelstein
The amazing Catholic Church - on the forefront of science from when? The 15th century?!

I'm sure Galileo was impressed.......

68 posted on 09/22/2014 5:51:06 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

He’s the exception who proves the rule. Educate yourself.


69 posted on 09/22/2014 5:52:03 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: miss marmelstein

sure.......


70 posted on 09/22/2014 6:02:12 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Fungi
He probably believes in evolution too.

No "probably" about it.

71 posted on 09/22/2014 7:19:40 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The rcc is full of Martians - they worship her statues 24/7.

72 posted on 09/22/2014 8:04:51 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: miss marmelstein
The amazing Catholic Church - on the forefront of science from when? The 15th century?!

What institution do you think opened the first University in Europe?
Hint, it began long BEFORE the 15th century. In fact, 7 of the 10 oldest colleges in the world were founded before the 13th century, and of those 7, 6 were founded under the auspices of the Catholic Church, and the oldest, the Univ. of Bologna, founded in 1088, was begun for the teaching of both civil and canon law.

Before the idea of the 'University' began, it was the Church which funded studies in science and medicine, and kept that knowledge throughout the Dark Ages, picking it back up and forming those institutions of higher learning based on the knowledge it formed or held on to, during that dark time in Western civilization.

73 posted on 09/22/2014 9:28:09 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Why does he have a Michael Jackson glove thing going on???

I think because he's holding a meteorite. Scientists use extra care when holding fossils, meteorites, etc.

74 posted on 09/22/2014 9:32:29 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
Well, they been on the forefront of a astronomy from the start./sarc

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/10/31/world/after-350-years-vatican-says-galileo-was-right-it-moves.html

75 posted on 09/22/2014 10:23:01 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: tet68

My hat is off to you sir. Guys like you made my service easier, since communism was on the run once Reagan took over. When I got to my 1st unit (82nd) in ‘83, the 1SG told us not to ask the few Vietnam vets what combat was like, indicating ‘they don’t want to talk about it’. As you probably recall, it wasn’t until the mid-80s when the documentaries (and fiction movies) started coming out. Considering how our Vietnam vets were treated upon returning to the U.S., I consider the debt to them as not fully repaid. That is why there is a special place in my heart for the Vietnam veteran.


76 posted on 09/24/2014 2:12:31 AM PDT by 82nd Bragger (Count to four except when in a helicopter)
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To: 82nd Bragger

Well, thank you so much for your service.
It’s true, we were not looked upon with much
favor on our return, which is why I try to
sincerely thank all those now serving.
A Korean war vet bought me a beer as I
was passing through LAX once and a very nice
family treated a bunch of us vets on our way
back to Nam just like we were family, so those
instances shine in my memory.
The fifth column has only gotten worse and more
powerful in all this time but vets don’t forget
who their friends or their enemies were.
Communists tried to kill me once, and now they
infest my own government. Maybe some day there
will be a reckoning, I just hope I live to see it.
Hard to think it was over forty years ago, some
has faded out but then again it seems just like
yesterday.
The serving men and women of today have every
reason to be proud of what they are doing, the
surprising thing to us is that they look up to
us.
Thanks again.
Tet68 USMC Chu Lai RVN. 66-68


77 posted on 09/24/2014 6:56:51 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Cboldt; NYer; ravenwolf
Partial Fermi Paradox Solution - Gamma Ray Bursts could prevent intelligent life except in the outer areas of largest 10% of galaxies
78 posted on 10/02/2014 9:18:43 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

Partial Fermi Paradox Solution - Gamma Ray Bursts could prevent intelligent life except in the outer areas of largest 10% of galaxies


I sure wish planet earth had of been in that 10%.


79 posted on 10/03/2014 3:10:13 AM PDT by ravenwolf (nd)
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