Posted on 09/14/2014 12:07:39 PM PDT by Gamecock
A single mother, people who have been married before and couples who have been living together "in sin" were married by Pope Francis in a taboo-challenging ceremony at the Vatican on Sunday.
In another signal of the openness of his papacy, Francis asked to marry 40 people from different social backgrounds who would be a realistic sample of modern couples.
It comes three weeks before a major synod of the Catholic Church will discuss the divisive issues of marriage, divorce and conception.
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Your judgment reflects prejudice.
After investigating the marriage the Church found that her husband was a brute and was intending to beat her AFTER the wedding since he THOUGHT that divorce was verboten to Catholics.
The Church said: Husband was dead wrong. The marriage vows were broken with the beatings and future of continual beatings. THAT was NO marriage. No "love" and "honor" there, past, present and future.
She got an annulment; the children were NOT bastards and she was free to wed again. She married again to a really nice guy and she is happy again.
Not often I get to see a happy ending. My old school mate deserved the happy ending.
It’s the Pope, so it is implied. Or something.
“One of the couples he married was single mother Gabriella and her partner Guido, whose previous marriage was annulled by an ecclesiastical tribunal.”
I infer that this has never happened before in the Church! The Pope is breaking new ground with his radical changes and flim-flammery! He will be marrying gays within 24 months!! See how this is supposed to work? Get with it already.
Freegards
Which ones would those be?
I remember reading somewhere that couples (not Catholics) often slept together JUST to be assured that “Myrtle” WAS indeed fertile.
As Fr. Arthur McGowan commented in a previous response, there is no “taboo” here. These situation occur in every parish and are handled the same way. As long as the to-be-marrieds are eligible to marry each other, there’s no canonical impediment, and they are in a state of grace (having repented previous sins with a firm desire of amendment) they really can’t be denied marriage. None of these situations are, on the face of them, in violation of Canon Law.
Which sins do you think he thinks are OK, based on this article?
1. "self righteous jerks"??? HERE? Lol. Noooooooooooooo.
2. The Pope won't put the falsely pious in their places. Our good Lord will do that.
That's an exceptionally foul and malicious thing to say.
Catechism of the Catholic Church
1449 The formula of absolution used in the Latin Church expresses the essential elements of this sacrament: the Father of mercies is the source of all forgiveness. He effects the reconciliation of sinners through the Passover of his Son and the gift of his Spirit, through the prayer and ministry of the Church:
God, the Father of mercies, |
The Church is constantly to be reformed. Ecclesia semper reformandi.
It's my experience that we, the common folks, RARELY, if ever, get all the facts. I don't think we have them here either. [Sgt. Friday, from Dragnet: "Just the facts, ma'am."] Lol. I'm old; I remember those things.
The Pope will go "by the Book" because that is what he does. He's the Vicar (Lieutenant) of Christ, that's all. Nothing more, nothing less.
His peers elected him because of his faith, intellect and backbone.
I don't know if your remember Pope Benedict. He was KNOWN for having:
1. a TOWERING intellect and
2. a backbone of tempered steel.
I don't doubt that Pope Francis I is the SAME.
How else could he have survived all the Church politics?
I don't know if that was a typo or a grammar-o.
“Any stick...”
Or that he had “what it takes.” It wasn’t always her fault, and women wanted children even more than men. And still do.
“Go to confession” for a cohabiting couple wanting a Catholic marriage would be the first thing! Then they’d be told to separate until the wedding.
That is true; a marriage that is entered into on a wrongful basis is not a marriage, and that’s the reason for annulments.
I'll let you play a little guessing game with yourself and decide which of these allow for the person in question to marry and which don't.
Now, per the social teaching of the Catholic Church the ideal situation is for children to be legitimately born into a family, and I assume you realize that extra-marital sex is a grave sin. It is most assuredly a sticky situation for someone to get knocked up by one person, and then go marry another. Thats not to say that such a situation cannot come about legitimately, but it is an irregular, discouragable situation. For Francis to make a big show pf specifically requesting to publically marry people in such in situation, especially without vocally reminding the faithful to conscientiously avoid getting themselves into such circumstances, is yet another instance in his long history of showing his contempt for the way things have been done and ought to be done. He cannot be ignorant of the message it sends for him to ostentatiously marry people in such an irregular situation (and put beach balls on altars, and declare "who am I to judge, etc). Its the message he wants to sent.
I am a gentleman and many know who I am.
I refuse to give evidence or details as many would make assumptions as to the cases involved.
However? The “internal forum” should be a valid option for those who KNOW that the formal annulment Tribunal would be problematic.
NO ONE really ever knows what goes on between husband and wife. Sometimes THEY aren't even aware of what's really going on.
So, judging married couples by what WE see and hear and/or what THEY say together or separately isn't always easy.
Couples usually discuss children before marriage. But even THAT can change when the time comes to really having them.
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