"Communists say that all this is communism. Sure, twenty centuries later. So when they speak, one can say to them: 'but then you are Christian'," he said, laughing.
Is the Pope telling Putin to come out of the closet?
This is what diversity can get for you.
Shouldn’t everyone rejoice that there is a retarded Pope?
Except in Russia, where the Christians are closet communists.
FRANCIS, THE JESUITS AND THE GOOD MARXISTS
Pope Francis is more open to the followers of proscribed Marxist liberation theology than to orthodox traditional Catholics.
From “Dark REBELLION in the Church” - Jesuits, theology of liberation, Carmelites, Marianists and Socialists: the final complaint.” Ricardo de la Cierva. P. 11-13
“Your theology helps the transformation of Latin America more than millions of books on Marxism” Fidel Castro to Leonardo Boff and Frei Beto in the presence of the Spanish Bishop in Brazil, Pedro Casáldiga, C.M.F., who plays end the phrase in his book Nicaragua, combat and prophecy, Madrid, helped, 1986, p.134
“The Mission of the Jesuits in the third world is to create conflict. We are the only powerful group in the world that makes it.” César Jerez S. J., provincial of Central America 1976-1982, at a meeting of Jesuits in Boston, New England Jesuit News, April, 1973.
“At the same time we Christians are children of a Virgin and a whore (Ivan Illich) and believe that this is the truth.” Ernesto Cardenal, priest and then Minister of Nicaragua, in the biography of J. L. González, Salamanca, “Follow me”, 1978, p.23
“The Communists, and not the Jesuits, are winning the battle of atheism.” Igor Bonchkovski in New Times, n.40, Moscow, 1975
“The national planning of the Society of Jesus in the United States should, following the example of China, become an international planning. Towards the convergence of problems in all areas of the world around a single theme: the construction in different times and forms of a world Communist society.”
Strategic document of a group of Dutch Jesuits - in collaboration with other Jesuit revolutionaries—published for internal debate in the official journal of the society of Jesus in the United States, National Jesuit News, April 1972.
“Socialist societies are very ethical, clean, physically and morally. If it weren’t for his materialist doctrine it could be argued that they carried out the ethical teaching of the social doctrine of the Church.” Leonardo Boff on his return from a trip to Moscow, cfr.ABC, 16-VII-87, p.45...
Marxist theologian, Leonardo Boff was elated at the election of Pope Francis... It seems that Pope Francis share with the Liberation Theologians the same high regard for Communist values.
“Marxism provides a scientific understanding of the mechanisms of oppression in the world, at local and national levels; It offers the vision of a new world which must be built as a socialist society, the first step to a classless society, where genuine brotherhood can be hopefully possible, and by which deserves sacrifice everything.” Declaration of the theological Association of India in the magazine Vidyajyoti, of the Theological Faculty of the Jesuits in Delhi, April, 1986.
Pope Francis has persecuted traditional Catholics that follow the Tridentine Mass, but it seems to maintain close ties with the leaders of the Marxist liberation theology, a movement condemned by Pope John Paul II and Benedict XVI and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
Pope Francis has affirmed that he has met many Marxists in his life who are good people, so he doesn’t feel offended when he’s questioned about his Marxist proclivities. I wonder how Pope Francis’ remarks would have been received if he were referring to the many good people he has met who were Nazis? After all, many more Christians have been murdered and persecuted by the “good Marxists” than by the “good” Nazis.
It is very worrisome that it is the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal Muller, he himself a follower of the liberation theology, who confirms that Pope Francis has close ties with the liberation theology, something that is in clear defiance to the Magisterium of the Church.
This is a major error in the catholic church.
Salvation in Jesus Christ is the center of the gospel. Whether rich or poor, all classes need to be told the way to eternal life.
The social justice/liberation theologians have fooled many into thinking that poverty issues (money) are the Bible's main message.
The pope is saying charity, Christian charity, was adopted by Marxists turned athiest and corrupted. Charity is still Christian even if marxists pervert it.
Huh? Communism has killed over 100 million people. Christian?
This guy’s nuts
What is this, Pope Rope-a-Dope?
Communists are godless atheists, or Democrats, but I repeat myself.
The pope is obviously a fool.
Communists are ATHEIST by definition.
Idiot.
He is no threat to the authentic teaching of the Catholic Church. No Pope can be.
But he’s just plain stupid.
No, they are not.
"Communists say that all this is communism. Sure, twenty centuries later. So when they speak, one can say to them: 'but then you are Christian'," he said, laughing.
This thread is gaining traction WAY FAST...wow.
If they are Christians, they need to repent and repudiate communism because that ideology is founded on the violation of three of the Ten Commandments: lies, coveting and theft.
The Google Translate version:
The Gospel speaks more to the poor or the rich to convert them?
“Poverty is at the heart of the Gospel. You can not understand the Gospel without understanding the real poverty, taking into account that there is also a great poverty of spirit: to be poor before God because God fills you up. The Gospel is addressed equally to the poor and to the rich. It speaks of poverty is that of wealth. Do not condemn the rich at all, but rather the riches when they become objects idolized. The god of money, the golden calf.”
She turns out to be a communist Pope, pauperism, populist. The Economist who dedicated a cover claims that he speaks as Lenin. It is found in these shoes?
“I say only that the Communists have stolen the flag. The flag of the poor is Christian. Poverty is at the heart of the Gospel. The poor are at the heart of the Gospel. Take Matthew 25, the protocol over which we shall be judged: I was hungry, I was thirsty, I was in prison, I was sick, naked. Or look at the Beatitudes, another flag. The communists say that this is a communist. Yeah, right, twenty centuries later. So you could say when they speak to them, but you are Christians “(laughs).
My wife has opined that Marx never would have conceived his pipe dream if he didn’t live in a country where Christianity influenced the culture. I agree with the Pope to the extent that altruism and love of humanity OUGHT to motivate all men. Unfortunately, the commies have yet to overcome the philosophical conundrum of sin. Without that, whatever the Pope thinks about Marx is drivel - and vice versa.
VATICAN TRANSLATION TEAM NOTICE, 29 June 2014Rome, Italy - It has come to our attention that the liberal media is writing that our Pope referred to communism being closet Christianity! This is a misunderstanding of what The Big Cheese said, probably indicating a translation issue.
We sincerely try, using Google Translate, to get our Great Pope's words translated properly and swiftly. Unfortunately, the poor quality of Google Translate and the mainstream media bias conspire to thwart our efforts. We apologize sincerely and perpetually for this misunderstanding!
The evil press reported our Great Pope said, "...communists are closet Christians."
His Amazing Holiness actually said, "If a communist falls in the forest, but no Christian is there to hear him, perhaps he really fallen into a closet."
Thank you for your indulgences - which you can pick up at your local parish.