Pope says communists are closet Christians

Reuters ^ | 6/29/2014

[ebb tide]

Pope Francis, whose criticisms of unbridled capitalism have prompted some to label him a Marxist, said in an interview published on Sunday that communists had stolen the flag of Christianity.

[Citizen Zed]

Is the Pope telling Putin to come out of the closet?

[humblegunner]

This is what diversity can get for you.

Shouldn’t everyone rejoice that there is a retarded Pope?

[1rudeboy]

Except in Russia, where the Christians are closet communists.

[Dqban22]

FRANCIS, THE JESUITS AND THE GOOD MARXISTS

Pope Francis is more open to the followers of proscribed Marxist liberation theology than to orthodox traditional Catholics.

From “Dark REBELLION in the Church” - Jesuits, theology of liberation, Carmelites, Marianists and Socialists: the final complaint.” Ricardo de la Cierva. P. 11-13

“Your theology helps the transformation of Latin America more than millions of books on Marxism” Fidel Castro to Leonardo Boff and Frei Beto in the presence of the Spanish Bishop in Brazil, Pedro Casáldiga, C.M.F., who plays end the phrase in his book Nicaragua, combat and prophecy, Madrid, helped, 1986, p.134

“The Mission of the Jesuits in the third world is to create conflict. We are the only powerful group in the world that makes it.” César Jerez S. J., provincial of Central America 1976-1982, at a meeting of Jesuits in Boston, New England Jesuit News, April, 1973.

“At the same time we Christians are children of a Virgin and a whore (Ivan Illich) and believe that this is the truth.” Ernesto Cardenal, priest and then Minister of Nicaragua, in the biography of J. L. González, Salamanca, “Follow me”, 1978, p.23

“The Communists, and not the Jesuits, are winning the battle of atheism.” Igor Bonchkovski in New Times, n.40, Moscow, 1975

“The national planning of the Society of Jesus in the United States should, following the example of China, become an international planning. Towards the convergence of problems in all areas of the world around a single theme: the construction in different times and forms of a world Communist society.”

Strategic document of a group of Dutch Jesuits - in collaboration with other Jesuit revolutionaries—published for internal debate in the official journal of the society of Jesus in the United States, National Jesuit News, April 1972.

“Socialist societies are very ethical, clean, physically and morally. If it weren’t for his materialist doctrine it could be argued that they carried out the ethical teaching of the social doctrine of the Church.” Leonardo Boff on his return from a trip to Moscow, cfr.ABC, 16-VII-87, p.45...

Marxist theologian, Leonardo Boff was elated at the election of Pope Francis... It seems that Pope Francis share with the Liberation Theologians the same high regard for Communist values.

“Marxism provides a scientific understanding of the mechanisms of oppression in the world, at local and national levels; It offers the vision of a new world which must be built as a socialist society, the first step to a classless society, where genuine brotherhood can be hopefully possible, and by which deserves sacrifice everything.” Declaration of the theological Association of India in the magazine Vidyajyoti, of the Theological Faculty of the Jesuits in Delhi, April, 1986.

Pope Francis has persecuted traditional Catholics that follow the Tridentine Mass, but it seems to maintain close ties with the leaders of the Marxist liberation theology, a movement condemned by Pope John Paul II and Benedict XVI and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

Pope Francis has affirmed that he has met many Marxists in his life who are good people, so he doesn’t feel offended when he’s questioned about his Marxist proclivities. I wonder how Pope Francis’ remarks would have been received if he were referring to the many good people he has met who were Nazis? After all, many more Christians have been murdered and persecuted by the “good Marxists” than by the “good” Nazis.

It is very worrisome that it is the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal Muller, he himself a follower of the liberation theology, who confirms that Pope Francis has close ties with the liberation theology, something that is in clear defiance to the Magisterium of the Church.

[NormsRevenge]

Considering he is a one lung wonder ..

Strange he made it this far..

Or is it?

[what's up]

Poverty is at the center of the Gospel," he said

This is a major error in the catholic church.

Salvation in Jesus Christ is the center of the gospel. Whether rich or poor, all classes need to be told the way to eternal life.

The social justice/liberation theologians have fooled many into thinking that poverty issues (money) are the Bible's main message.

[wonkowasright]

The pope is saying charity, Christian charity, was adopted by Marxists turned athiest and corrupted. Charity is still Christian even if marxists pervert it.

[SkyDancer]

Huh? Communism has killed over 100 million people. Christian?

[wonkowasright]

Charity is a big part of salvation, or at least Christ says so. I realize some will disagree and they can take it up with Christ when he returns.

Matthew 25

The Final Judgment

31“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. 32Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. 34Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers,f you did it to me.’

41“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

[redgolum]

This guy’s nuts

[Citizen Zed]

Thank you! People really need to lighten up at the Pope’s comments. If you put them in context, nothing has really changed in the teachings of the Church.

[smoothsailing]

What is this, Pope Rope-a-Dope?

Communists are godless atheists, or Democrats, but I repeat myself.

[Westbrook]

The pope is obviously a fool.

Communists are ATHEIST by definition.

Idiot.

[GeronL]

The Pope needs to take a vacation or something. A sabbatical or whatever.

[GeronL]

bump

[Arthur McGowan]

He is no threat to the authentic teaching of the Catholic Church. No Pope can be.

But he’s just plain stupid.

[miss marmelstein]

Well, this here Catholic never heard that “poverty is at the center of the Gospel.” But of course, I’m your basic pre Vatican 2 type.

Would the Pope care to comment on the slaughter and destruction of Christianity in Mosul?

[Salvavida]

Charity flows from salvation as a new nature. You don't work your way to salvation. To do so cheapens what Christ did, and does violence to the Gospel.

And Russians have never been known for grace and charity.

[miss marmelstein]

I’m confused if this Pope is either terminally incomprehensible or if he’s being translated badly! Since Day 1 his quotes make no sense in English.