So here is something to wait with.
Let me know when you get an answer. In the meantime, would you like some butter with that?
Posted on 05/26/2014 3:23:25 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
Controversial, yes, but true. Otherwise, we don’t believe in Church dogma or the reality of the sin of heresy.
Michael Voris makes some good points in this video. To the line “we don’t talk about religion and politics here,” he has added a third forbidden subject, sex. Regarding the older form of that yarn, Brother Francis once made an innocently humorous response to someone while he was out doing our work on the streets. A man said to him, “There are two things, we don’t talk about here!”
To which Brother responded, with a slightly feigned naïveté, “Really? What are those?”
“Religion and Politics!” responded the man.
And Brother said, “What’s wrong with politics?”
(Excerpt) Read more at catholicism.org ...
"When we were making the law, when we were writing the literature and the mathematics the grandfathers of Blair and little Bush were scratching around in caves"
True.
LIVING Christians; not DEAD ones!!!
So it's gutless Catholics that have allowed CHOICE to KILL over 1,000,000 a year?
Where are their balls?
Thanks!
Hot wax has influenced me many times in my life...
Please see a doctor about getting your meds adjusted.
The problem with the Catholic outlook on birth control is that they place the blame for all moral failure on it. They claim it's the CAUSE of our problems.
That's all backwards. In reality, it's a SYMPTOM of our problems.
Sin is the cause. Sin begins in the heart long before it is manifest in the actions.
If birth control were totally eliminated from our culture today, the problems we have would continue because the problem is in the inherent sin nature of man. It's WHO HE IS, not what he does. What he does is merely a reflection of who he is inside.
However, birth control is a very convenient scapegoat and, as we can see here, a very easy thing to blame non-Catholics for.
It's disingenuous to blame all the problems of our country on *the other guys* when Catholics by every indication going, are the group who, as a whole, have more consistently voted far more liberal than Protestants, and in countries where Catholicism is the majority religion, are the poorest and have the most problems with syncretism.
BO did not give us all those laws. Law making is by the legislative body and they were all in place before he came along. You need to learn how the government in this country works if you think BO gave us all those problems.
Nice try at blame-shifting, again, but it falls flat again.
Popes in the past have condemned them ex catherdra.
Catholics who accept them are then technically, not in agreement with their own infallible pronouncements of their own church.
That puts them in a very precarious position, according to their own Catholics church which condemns anything but lockstep agreement with it.
Schismatics are those such as EO.
This shows the hypocrisy of the Catholic church.
Pope Boniface VIII, Bull Unam sanctam (1302): "We are compelled in virtue of our faith to believe and maintain that there is only one holy Catholic Church, and that one is apostolic. This we firmly believe and profess without qualification. Outside this Church there is no salvation and no remission of sins, the Spouse in the Canticle proclaiming: 'One is my dove, my perfect one. One is she of her mother, the chosen of her that bore her' (Canticle of Canticles 6:8); which represents the one mystical body whose head is Christ, of Christ indeed, as God. And in this, 'one Lord, one faith, one baptism' (Ephesians 4:5). Certainly Noah had one ark at the time of the flood, prefiguring one Church which perfect to one cubit having one ruler and guide, namely Noah, outside of which we read all living things were destroyed… We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff."
— Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam (Promulgated November 18, 1302) "If, therefore, the Greeks or others say that they are not committed to Peter and to his successors, they necessarily say that they are not of the sheep of Christ, since the Lord says that there is only one fold and one shepherd (Jn.10:16). Whoever, therefore, resists this authority, resists the command of God Himself. " http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/b8-unam.html
Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam: “We declare, say, define, and pronounce [ex cathedra] that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” "If, therefore, the Greeks or others say that they are not committed to Peter and to his successors, they necessarily say that they are not of the sheep of Christ, since the Lord says that there is only one fold and one shepherd (Jn.10:16). Whoever, therefore, resists this authority, resists the command of God Himself. " — Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam (Promulgated November 18, 1302)
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/b8-unam.html
Pope Eugene IV, Cantate Domino (1441): "The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the "eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels" (Matthew 25:41), unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church."
Pope Eugene IV and the Council of Florence: "The sacrosanct Roman Church...firmly believes, professes, and proclaims that..not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics cannot become participants in eternal life but will depart `into everlasting fire...unless before the end of life the same have been added to the flock; and that..no one, whatever almsgiving he has practiced, even if he has shed blood for the name of Christ, can be saved, unless he has remained in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.”— Pope Eugene IV and the Council of Florence (Seventeenth Ecumenical Council), Cantate Domino, Bull promulgated on February 4, 1441 (Florentine style), [considered infallible by some]
Tell me, then, where is she buried?
There are accounts of her dormition and Assumption. Sorry you don’t believe them.
Great post.
Funny thing is when I point out that the Catholic church says that those who are not part of it are saved, I get absolutely castigated. I'm shredded for not knowing what the Catholic church teaches and how I am so poorly catechized, yada, yada, yada....
And yet here we have a Catholic saying how that if someone wants to be saved, they need to convert, and the RC's are backing him.
The hypocrisy abounds.
So here is something to wait with.
Let me know when you get an answer. In the meantime, would you like some butter with that?
Wrong down to the sub-atomic level. How about proof instead of such a broad brush?
Hoss
Not knowing where she was buried proves NOTHING.
Good idea!
Is yours taking new patients at this time?
Strange that you don't worry about where MOSES is buried!
There are accounts of her dormition and Assumption.
I'm sure there are.
There were 'accounts' of Pope Formosus don't miracles AFTER his death; too.
It makes for a good rabbit hole to send a snipe hunter to investigate.
But among Caths, lack of evidence is support for it having occurred. Quite the hermeneutic.
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