Why I Am Still an Evangelical Protestant [And Not Roman Catholic]

Chris Castaldo ^ | March 15th, 2013 | Chris Castaldo

[xone]

Come now you know that Luther quote was from the beginning of a long polemic:

Sure, but that is how this goes. Luther the heretic!, until he is trotted out for some purpose. Usually for this quote, but Luther makes appearances on Mary-oriented threads as well. If he cared, he would be happy that he is quoted the same way scripture is, no context, cherry-picked.

[boatbums]

Why do Catholics come on threads posted by Christians who aren’t Catholic and try to turn them into Catholic threads??? What’s it to you if a Evangelical wants to talk about why he left the religion of his birth for Christianity and has no desire to “come home” to it?

Another Catholic posted a thread a few days ago that stated 150 reasons why he isn’t a Protestant. Plenty of Catholics pitched a fit because Protestants dared post comments to it - some with the argument of, “Why do you care?”. So, tell me, why do you care?

[boatbums]

Frustrating isn't it how many, many times these rebuttals are posted - certainly more than sufficient to blow away the false constructs they are trying to build? Yet, once again, the SAME false statement is tossed out as if no such correction ever happened. After all these times, I can only construe that it is intentional deception. Perhaps a smug assumption that maybe an unsuspecting reader might get snagged and be caught? Perhaps those who do this think the ends justify the means? Whatever it is, God will NEVER honor deceit. He deals in truth and the truth will set us free!

[Gamecock]

Ant the intersting part is to watch how the thread fell apart. Who pulled the trigger that caused this to go from a discussion to a yell fest?

[Biggirl]

Could it be because it was also happening over at those threads that were set up for those who are Catholic only and they became basing threads from non-Catholic Christians?

[Legatus]

I think the inability of all sides to ignore flamebait is part of the problem.

[Elsie]

OVer 200 replies.

Can I NOW highjack this thread with MORMON lies??

[Elsie]

All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin that is not deadly.

And it was left at that; with no LIST to ‘help’ us know just WHICH sins are which.

[Elsie]

One man’s ‘flamebait’ is another’s clear Scriptural teaching.

[daniel1212]

Posting stuff that is "not true". hmmm. but what? Is it...to make others think...that "stuff you are posting" is not true...without being clear what that precisely is...leaving everyone to guess or assume it must be so, since hey, a 'catholic' said it -- must be right, eh?. no further clarity of charge required...sort of like how the Inquisition operated (accused were never clearly told what "the charge" was, or if so, only by vague hints, and never as to basis or foundation)

Salvation was actually charging boxlunch with "posting stuff that is not true," which salvation abounds in, while i was actually was responding to the "we gave you the Bible" statement, which seems to basically infer what you are saying, and thus my question .

If she also refuses to answer the question, just as they do regarding Jn. 6:53,54, then it is akin to the reaction of the Scribes and Pharisees when the Lord asked His question regarding authority. (Mk. 11:27-33) For indeed they are related.

[metmom]

Could it be because it was also happening over at those threads that were set up for those who are Catholic only and they became basing threads from non-Catholic Christians?

Couldn't have happened. Non-Catholics are not allowed on caucus threads.

[daniel1212]

Then you are not looking hard.

[Former Fetus]

I agree, the Kaddish is a beautiful prayer, but if you read the words carefully it does not mention any spiritual benefit for the dead person.

May His great Name grow exalted and sanctified
in the world that He created as He willed.
May He give reign to His kingship in your lifetimes and in your days,
and in the lifetimes of the entire Family of Israel,
swiftly and soon. Now say:
Amen. May His great Name be blessed forever and ever.
Blessed, praised, glorified, exalted, extolled,
mighty, upraised, and lauded be the Name of the Holy One
Blessed is He.
beyond any blessing and song,
praise and consolation that are uttered in the world. Now say:
Amen
May there be abundant peace from Heaven
and life upon us and upon all Israel. Now say:
Amen
He Who makes peace in His heights, may He make peace,
upon us and upon all Israel. Now say:
Amen

As for the Apochryphal book (2 Maccabbees?) to me it does not carry the weight of Scripture.

[Former Fetus]

If he really was a believer, the Holy Spirit will convict him. It may take longer that we would like, but God’s time is not our time. But convict He will! Just like the prodigal son, he never stopped being a son, but he had to eventually get up and return to his father’s house. Having gone through a similar experience with one of my children, I understand the father waiting (you cannot force your child to do the right thing) and the father’s continual love and looking forward to reuniting with his wayward child!

[af_vet_1981]

He is a believer, and I assume he was convicted of his sin. However he also believes in the doctrine of eternal security so he really understands he does not have to worry about any eternal consequences of his mortal sins, other than loss of heavenly rewards according to the doctrine and I think espoused by some here. Now if he were a penitent Catholic the fear of God’s righteous judgment would compel him to seek a priest, confess his sin, submit himself for appropriate penance to make it as right as could be made after the lasting earthly damage to other hearts, minds, and souls. But he is not a Catholic, and he is a minister of the Gospel, with no earthly overseer. He knows he is a believer so he just does what he deems best. People fall in, out, and into love. Its like the flu, once its onset is felt there is vomit left for others to clean up, unless it is dealt with wisely.

[Iscool]

Having gone through a similar experience with one of my children, I understand the father waiting (you cannot force your child to do the right thing) and the father’s continual love and looking forward to reuniting with his wayward child!

Oh man, can I relate to that...

[metmom]

He is a believer, and I assume he was convicted of his sin.

You CAN'T know that.

Claiming you know that puts you in the position of God.

However he also believes in the doctrine of eternal security so he really understands he does not have to worry about any eternal consequences of his mortal sins, other than loss of heavenly rewards according to the doctrine and I think espoused by some here.

That's baloney.

That's projection.

Now if he were a penitent Catholic the fear of God’s righteous judgment would compel him to seek a priest, confess his sin, submit himself for appropriate penance to make it as right as could be made after the lasting earthly damage to other hearts, minds, and souls.

You mean like Ted Kennedy who led a life of immorality and deceit and made amends on his deathbed and got in anyway? How is that any different? The Catholic church allows for the exact same thing that you condemn OSAS over.

But he is not a Catholic, and he is a minister of the Gospel, with no earthly overseer.

But he DOES answer to God as the Holy Spirit is his overseer, as He is for all of us. I'd rather deal with an earthly overseer if I was in sin cause I'd at least be able to snow him. There's no getting away with anything with the Holy Spirit.

He knows THINKS he is a believer so he just does what he deems best.

[metmom]

Catholics do NOT understand the Father’s heart.

They treat God as if He is up there ready to zap them for the least little offense instead of a heavenly Father longing for relationship with Him.

They portray God as looking for excuses to damn us as opposed to looking for excuses to save us.

[af_vet_1981]

Re 233: of course it does not contain any words of prayer for the deceased ! Excuse me, I think so many things are obvious to others that I don’t lay out all the reasoning (plus mobile is limiting now). The entire prayer is a glorification and submission to God in suffering circumstance, martyrdom, or anguish. It is an offering.

[Iscool]

He is a believer, and I assume he was convicted of his sin. However he also believes in the doctrine of eternal security so he really understands he does not have to worry about any eternal consequences of his mortal sins,

He doesn't have any mortal sins...That has been proven thru scripture on this thread...There is only one mortal sin, not mortal sins...And that one mortal sin has nothing to do with a believer...

other than loss of heavenly rewards according to the doctrine and I think espoused by some here. Now if he were a penitent Catholic the fear of God’s righteous judgment would compel him to seek a priest, confess his sin, submit himself for appropriate penance to make it as right as could be made after the lasting earthly damage to other hearts, minds, and souls.

But he is not a Catholic, and he is a minister of the Gospel, with no earthly overseer. He knows he is a believer so he just does what he deems best.

I'll assume you really know that there is no truth in that statement at all...

I've seen you enough on these threads to know you have seen post after post that non Catholic Christians rely on the truth of the scriptures and the leading of the Holy Spirit to guide us in our quest to please God...We have the words of God to guide us...We don't fall for a man made version of the scriptures that is proven by the scriptures to be wrong at every turn just as this mortal sins fiasco put out by your religion...

People fall in, out, and into love. Its like the flu, once its onset is felt there is vomit left for others to clean up, unless it is dealt with wisely.

While it may be a mess at times, it's already taken care of by God...We do not have to pay and pay and pay after we die...It's already been paid for...