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To: af_vet_1981; Former Fetus
He is a believer, and I assume he was convicted of his sin.

You CAN'T know that.

Claiming you know that puts you in the position of God.

However he also believes in the doctrine of eternal security so he really understands he does not have to worry about any eternal consequences of his mortal sins, other than loss of heavenly rewards according to the doctrine and I think espoused by some here.

That's baloney.

That's projection.

Now if he were a penitent Catholic the fear of God’s righteous judgment would compel him to seek a priest, confess his sin, submit himself for appropriate penance to make it as right as could be made after the lasting earthly damage to other hearts, minds, and souls.

You mean like Ted Kennedy who led a life of immorality and deceit and made amends on his deathbed and got in anyway? How is that any different? The Catholic church allows for the exact same thing that you condemn OSAS over.

But he is not a Catholic, and he is a minister of the Gospel, with no earthly overseer.

But he DOES answer to God as the Holy Spirit is his overseer, as He is for all of us. I'd rather deal with an earthly overseer if I was in sin cause I'd at least be able to snow him. There's no getting away with anything with the Holy Spirit.

He knows THINKS he is a believer so he just does what he deems best.

237 posted on 01/28/2014 7:57:27 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom

Re 237; by your circular reasoning no one can be certain he is a believer/saved; it is interesting how you reason that unrepentant believers were never saved; I don’t think that Ted Kennedy was a penitent Catholic, but he was certainly not a Catholic priest or other religious leader. He was a politician, one rank below, well, you know.


241 posted on 01/28/2014 8:08:46 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)
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To: metmom
Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart. Then each one will receive his commendation from God. (I Cor. 4:5)

For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open. (Luke 8:17)

261 posted on 01/28/2014 2:26:20 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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