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To: BlueDragon; boxlunch; Salvation
Posting stuff that is "not true". hmmm. but what? Is it...to make others think...that "stuff you are posting" is not true...without being clear what that precisely is...leaving everyone to guess or assume it must be so, since hey, a 'catholic' said it -- must be right, eh?. no further clarity of charge required...sort of like how the Inquisition operated (accused were never clearly told what "the charge" was, or if so, only by vague hints, and never as to basis or foundation)

Salvation was actually charging boxlunch with "posting stuff that is not true," which salvation abounds in, while i was actually was responding to the "we gave you the Bible" statement, which seems to basically infer what you are saying, and thus my question .

If she also refuses to answer the question, just as they do regarding Jn. 6:53,54, then it is akin to the reaction of the Scribes and Pharisees when the Lord asked His question regarding authority. (Mk. 11:27-33) For indeed they are related.

230 posted on 01/28/2014 5:49:52 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212; boxlunch; Salvation

Ah, I see that now, and had seen that particular comment, along with many other repetitions of the same from an assortment of persons, that "we gave you the Bible" meme, which is gross distortion when not outright lie, all bound up with and "justified" by yet more grotesque bundles of distortions if not lies. Though oft repeated, none here are particularly guilty themselves of having crafted them...

They would burn us both, alive, if they could get their hands on us. wait...what's that I hear...? is it "we" don't do that anymore..? oo-kay, but then what's up with this "we" when it comes to the "we gave you the bible"?

It's the royal "we" when not much applicable at all, in that it was a bunch of JEWS, over many centuries, who gave us the "bible", regardless of how some may wish to massage the data at this late date, viewing it all through Romanist lenses (and demand others accept the distortions of their own skewed "sight") but it's just persons, individuals in the past, when it comes to having yielded themselves over demons enough to end up roasting the flesh of their own fellows, and/or those whom would not submit to that same royal "we" which is so casually bandied about on a daily basis.

They are the sons and daughters of their spiritual forebears, all right, and to *some* of those, the words of John the Baptist to the Pharisees ring out to this day, in that they are or become the progeny of those past days "royal we" Pharisees in their seeking out always the high seats for themselves, making certain to give all notice of their own dedication in demonstrations of the strictest of "observances" and publicly pronounced pious prayer.

Understanding TODAY that all those outward gestures of the Pharisees availed them nothing but the fiercest of condemnations from that Baptist, that crucial forerunner to Christ, still, ordinances, concerning "observances" along with special considerations and rules in regards to particular posture one must assume (according to "tradition") are given credit towards being avenue for one to earn some shorter stay in an all but entirely inevitable stay in Purgatory.

What would John the Baptist have to say about doctrines of Purgatory? How about the Apostle Paul? It is that man's words they have distorted, by the application of the VERY SAME sort of approach the Pharisees had used in their own apprehension2 of the nature of God, as revealed in the various texts.

As those Pharisees sought out John's "ceremony", upon them approaching him, he said to them;

Scarcely understanding, to this very day, few among the royal "we" of the Romanists seem to understand the deeper meaning of that ritual, that "royal we" having long ago reduced the same to the sprinkling of infants (a "magic" ceremony, which under their authoritative hands spiritual forces, God included(!) must be either compelled or constrained, reducing it all to being much as witchcraft, good intentions, even the purest of those aside) who themselves cannot know when sprinkled, what the tax collectors and prostitutes knew, when they themselves were to be baptized.

250 posted on 01/28/2014 10:52:26 AM PST by BlueDragon ( if my thoughtdreams could be seen.... they'd put my head in a guillotine but it's alright ma)
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