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1 posted on 01/09/2014 2:12:15 PM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 01/09/2014 2:12:36 PM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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If by “the Catholic Church” you mean the average Catholic soccer mom, that would be a “no.”


3 posted on 01/09/2014 2:15:07 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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I don’t know about the WHOLE church...but form the Publications and other ideology that run rampant in Catholic schools and parishes I’ve been in...I would say leftest and progressive with a belief that Islam can be understood and appreciated...I’ve seen more elitism and right out rudeness of basic rights towards disabled people at certain “private” Catholic schools where the consensus is that they are better than most...and I’m Catholic - and having a tough issue at the moment on whether to stay...actually...will probably move to conservative Christian church until The Church cleans house with all this... my .02 cent anyways....


4 posted on 01/09/2014 2:22:20 PM PST by BCW (Salva reipublicae)
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Is the (Catholic) Church Inherently Conservative?

No. Just No.

See voting records.


5 posted on 01/09/2014 2:31:47 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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Is the Pope Protestant?


6 posted on 01/09/2014 2:33:25 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: NYer

In a word: No.


9 posted on 01/09/2014 2:47:51 PM PST by FredZarguna (Das is nicht richtig nur falsch. Das ist nicht einmal falsch.)
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I this a trick question? No, is my answer.


10 posted on 01/09/2014 3:14:35 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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Just for disclosure, I'm what many would call a lapsed Catholic. Went to a Parochial school and all that.

I don't see how anyone could consider the Catholic Church to be least bit conservative these days. From priests breaking into US draft offices and burning records to attacking local governments all around the world, the organization has proven time and again to be at least "Progressive".

Locally, the vans used by Catholic Social services push a message of "Social Justice". Not my idea of conservative.

Does the Church stand against abortion? Yes. In this singular issue, they seem to project a conservative image.

Otherwise, I fail to see any long term conservative actions... A conservative organization, one that allows "Caesar his due" would have turned the many pedophile, rapist priests over for trial as the criminals they are.

So, no. Not conservative. YMMV.

12 posted on 01/09/2014 3:20:58 PM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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My wife and many other Catholics I know are very conservative. But by and large, it seems like most Catholic clergy and laity have forgotten the Truth that man is sinful, and needs the redemptive power of Christ’s blood. Many Catholics are too eager to look for new mesiahs on earth, such as the craven enemy of the Church and America, Barack Maobama. Bob


13 posted on 01/09/2014 3:25:06 PM PST by alstewartfan (Old admirals who feel the wind Are never put to sea. Al Stewart)
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In a word...NO


14 posted on 01/09/2014 3:58:56 PM PST by Breto (Stranger in a strange land... where did America go?)
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I have never really liked the idea of labeling the Church with a political description. If we look at Traditional Catholic teaching, I don’t think we could say it reflects conservative or liberal.


16 posted on 01/09/2014 4:07:29 PM PST by piusv
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**In effect, it is to view the Church as a living being that retains her identity as she develops, and is subject to occasional infirmities but thereafter returns to health.**

No other church has stood against
abortion
euthanasia
same-sex marriage
embryonic stem cell research
contracepetion

AND the Obamacare mandate to kill babies

No other church has done this publicly and is still doing it except the Catholic Church!!


17 posted on 01/09/2014 4:30:46 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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In effect, it is to view the Church as a living being that retains her identity as she develops

If it's "developing," then it can't be conservative, can it?

20 posted on 01/09/2014 4:37:58 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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Define “conservative”. If you mean does it try to conserve the faith once for all handed down to the saints, I’d say yes. If you mean politically, no. For one thing, that’s not its job. For another, it existed before modern politics, so it’s not really fair to expect it to conform to them. For still another, as C. S. Lewis said in “Mere Christianity”, there are some aspects of serious discipleship that look more conservative, and some that look more liberal or at least egalitarian.


26 posted on 01/09/2014 7:33:39 PM PST by RichInOC (2013-14 Tiber Swim Team)
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The American Revolution has been called a “conservative” revolution - but of course, in reality any revolution is - a revolution.

The reality is that the Constitution is a progressive document:

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Article 1 Section 8. The Congress shall have power . . . To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries . . .

American so-called “conservatives” like us are not that at all - we are actually progressive in outlook, and expect liberty - the freedom to do different things than were done in the past - to be a blessing.

30 posted on 01/09/2014 8:00:53 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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