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The Bible is Wrong!!! (Grammatically)
SimpleToRemember.com Judaism Online ^ | Circa 2011 | Rabbi Lawrence Kelemen

Posted on 12/28/2013 7:17:56 PM PST by Phinneous

How can this thing be divine?!?

The Pentateuch, if divine, is full of mistakes from the very first word (we're talking Hebrew here...the basis of the Greek/Latin/English translations everyone in the world uses.) How could that be?

Example: In the beginning G-d created, in the Hebrew version, is actually literally "In the beginning OF... G-d created" There are thousands of examples of the Pentateuch making no sense in its grammar or syntax. So how do we know how to interpret it even on a literal level?

Well... behold, the Oral Torah...

The link is to an hour-long class (in English y'all) on the rational proofs of an Oral Torah (the Mishnah) given to Moses concurrently with the Pentateuch. Rabbi Kelemen is a great speaker so pastors, etc will have loads of sermon material from this...


TOPICS: Apologetics; History; Judaism
KEYWORDS: bible; epigraphyandlanguage; faithandphilosophy; hebrew; masoritic; mishnah; talmud; torah
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To: dangus

Even if it is just speculation, I’m still interested in what document and which secondary source. I have a course on John that had been an occasional course but is probably moving into a two-year cycle and this looks useful.

I was looking at your articles posted in an attempt to figure out where you were from and saw that you were the one who was part of a group thinking of starting a college a few years ago. How did that turn out?


81 posted on 12/31/2013 3:32:47 AM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: Olog-hai

I would say the authorship of DSS is highly uncertain, rather than dubious. Dubious suggests fraud and they make no claim to authorship.

As for Romans 3:1-2, no-one denies that the Word of God was given to the Hebrews.


82 posted on 12/31/2013 8:51:00 AM PST by dangus
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To: WVNan
You are right. The original languages offer many words and phrases that are difficult to translate into English.

This is a good point, made doubly sticky by the fact that the Bible means something in English as well as its original languages. Consider:

"Trust in the LORD with all thine heart, and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him and he shall direct thy paths." - Proverbs 3:5-6, KJV

Versus:

"Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding. In all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight." - Proverbs 3:5-6, NIV.

Two different meanings. Same language.

83 posted on 12/31/2013 9:16:42 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: dangus
The words of God were entrusted to the Jews in particular, not all of the Hebrews. (The Greek word episteuthesan in Romans 3:2 means to entrust or to give a commission.)
84 posted on 12/31/2013 10:28:55 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Right. I sloppily substituted one word for another. Your emphasis on the fact that they were JEWISH rather than HEBREW makes a good point: Although HEBREWS would have chiefly read the masoreh, most JEWS were in diaspora throughout the Greek-speaking world and would likely read the LXX.


85 posted on 12/31/2013 10:52:18 AM PST by dangus
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Good example.


86 posted on 01/02/2014 8:33:24 PM PST by WVNan
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