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Do I go to mass tomorrow, and listen to a homily advocating amnesty for illegal immigrants? (Vanity)

Posted on 09/07/2013 3:59:35 PM PDT by steelhead_trout

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To: fatima
How many of you have stood outside of an abortion chamber to beg for the life of a child

You'd be wrong there. How you can equate immigration laws with the lives of preborn children is beyond me. There is no moral comparison.

Like all believing Catholics, I'm at Mass to receive Jesus in the Most Blessed Sacrament, not to hear a sermon on politics. But I've heard much stupider things from the mouths of priests than talk of immigration reform.

As I stated before, there was no talk of immigration at our Vigil Mass this evening. And I don't even think it would have been very controversial in my parish. I attend a parish of mostly one percenters and my impression is most of them don't care one way or the other about immigration reform. They certainly seem to have a don't ask, don't tell policy with their gardners and cleaning ladies.

121 posted on 09/07/2013 6:31:40 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: DuncanWaring

Oh, I definitely misspoke! Of course, wine is changed into the blood of Christ. What a mistake, lol!


122 posted on 09/07/2013 6:32:09 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Ann Archy

That’s interesting. I think many Protestants and Jews would be shocked if they knew the truth about how much Catholics ever talk about them—hardly at all!


123 posted on 09/07/2013 6:33:52 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: ClaytonP

The Catholic church has taken a firm stand against abortion, homosexuality, and gay marriage. I see Protestant churches embracing these sins. Perhaps we are poisoning the KoolAid as well. Neither the Catholic nor the Protestant churches have innocent pasts, nor do we have innocent futures. We are churches made up of humans; therefore, sins are going to happen.

Jumping on these threads and spouting off about how your interpretation of the Bible is better than everybody else’s is simply childish and embarrassing.


124 posted on 09/07/2013 6:35:01 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: fatima

Most times when the bishop has sent a letter our pastor either a) sticks it in the bulletin or b) reads it after Mass but before the recessional hymn and some folks definitely do leave.


125 posted on 09/07/2013 6:37:38 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: ken5050

I did enjoy your anecdote. The part about your synagogue becoming a mosque is interesting (if disappointing).

There is protocol, and there is true Religion.

To choose true Religion over protocol is never wrong.

Shalom


126 posted on 09/07/2013 6:38:30 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Amen.Paul walked into a temple and told them all they were worshiping the wrong God.He had a few Apostle's with him.They beat them up.The Blessed Mother lived a few blocks away in John's house.Paul was eventually beheaded for this.Speak up or shut up.Still no answer from militant pro-lifers on this thread.What would Jesus do.Stand outside of an Abortion Chamber..
127 posted on 09/07/2013 6:41:08 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Maudeen

>> It’s how we finish the race. . . no matter what denomination.

AMEN

In the face of the Satanic evil of Islam — the REAL heresy — we need Christian unity, not division.

God bless you.


128 posted on 09/07/2013 6:41:10 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Arthur McGowan; steelhead_trout
If the priest actually advocates open borders or amnesty, you have a perfect right to stand up and tell him he is abusing the pulpit. And you should state the reason: He is preaching propositions that are not part of the Catholic Faith. And you could add that immigrants vote overwhelmingly for pro-abortion politicians, an evil act that they have no right to enter the country and do.

Beautiful, very short yet thorough, and doable, you already wrote the script!

129 posted on 09/07/2013 6:42:14 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Libertarians, the left's social agenda with conservatism's economics, which is impossible of course)
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To: ripnbang; Ann Archy; goodwithagun

Thank you. We are as fallible and as forgiven as Peter was. We can admit to no more and pray for no less. To think otherwise is to be overshadowed by the darkness which we must all fight against.

“Jesus loves us immensely and asks us to trust and follow him.” and He loves us despite what we have done to fractionalize ourselves from being united in Him.


130 posted on 09/07/2013 6:43:22 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Doogle

Wow, that is arrogant. I bet that made the poor folks who couldn’t contribute any more feel welcome. Or the little kids who only have a quarter in their pocket but want to feel like they are helping.


131 posted on 09/07/2013 6:46:44 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
once Francis starts going all-in on Liberation theology

Hmmm... that's not the Francis I have read.

I'm a Protestant but I find much enlightenment in the teachings of Pope Francis. So far, anyway.

I know my Bible well enough to discern the difference if he starts preaching counter to Scripture. Until that day...

"15 Some indeed preach Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from good will. 16 The latter do it out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. 17 The former proclaim Christ out of rivalry, not sincerely but thinking to afflict me in my imprisonment. 18 What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice."

Philippians 1:15-18 (ESV)

132 posted on 09/07/2013 6:52:10 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: steelhead_trout

Not sure where you are from, but now might be a good time to check out a Southern Baptist Church.


133 posted on 09/07/2013 6:53:22 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: old and tired

Have you ever stood outside an abortion chamber and beg for the life of a child?If Father read the letter would you have stood up and said “Jobs for Americans First?


134 posted on 09/07/2013 6:54:08 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: steve86

Where the devil do you live that a priest visits only twice a month?


135 posted on 09/07/2013 6:56:27 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: Arthur McGowan

It’s sad sometimes when my Jewish friends have told me how I must have heard anti-Semitism during the Mass or in Catholic school. The late, great mayor of NYC, Ed Koch, used to natter on about this. I was bewildered at first because I never heard Jews or Protestants mentioned in a negative way at all! Of course, I never heard them mentioned at all, which might have been the problem, lol!


136 posted on 09/07/2013 7:00:21 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Dick Vomer

Exactly!


137 posted on 09/07/2013 7:01:00 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: miss marmelstein

I wouldn’t go to mass to listen to propaganda.


138 posted on 09/07/2013 7:01:21 PM PDT by Chickensoup (...We didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: steelhead_trout
Cut and paste the following into a word document, print it and have it ready to drop in the collection if the homily, which is prudential by the way, advocates amnesty for criminals and sinners.

2241 The more prosperous nations are obliged, to the extent they are able, to welcome the foreigner in search of the security and the means of livelihood which he cannot find in his country of origin. Public authorities should see to it that the natural right is respected that places a guest under the protection of those who receive him.

Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants' duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens.

140 posted on 09/07/2013 7:09:17 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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