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Do I go to mass tomorrow, and listen to a homily advocating amnesty for illegal immigrants? (Vanity)

Posted on 09/07/2013 3:59:35 PM PDT by steelhead_trout

Have head that tomorrow, September 8, parish priests, on order from their dioceses, will give homilies that unabashadly advocate amnesty for illegal aliens, that is, support the Obama administration's policy in this area. Last week's homily was, in my church, a taste of this; the priest worked (snuck?) the subject of immigration and immigrants into the homily. Since I've returned to the faith from a somewhat lapsed status over 4 years ago, I've endeavored not to miss any days of obligation. But I remember way back in 1982 when a priest gave an over-the-top homily supporting the nuclear "freeze" movement. I do not want to ever sit through something like that again. If I do, I will simply get up and walk out of church.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; doctrine; illegals; immigration
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

I went to a Presbyterian Church back when Clinton was impeached for lying but not removed from office. Our preacher laughed and cheered from the pulpit on Sunday morning announcing that Clinton had been found “innocent”.

I sat there smoldering and I never went back but I regret that I didn’t get up and walk out when he said it!


81 posted on 09/07/2013 5:09:33 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ann Archy

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

James 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

1 Corinthians Chapter 15

1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:

6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.

7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.

8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

Ephesians Chapter 2

1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.

18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.


82 posted on 09/07/2013 5:11:03 PM PDT by kindred ( God is just and the justifier of him that believes in Jesus.)
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To: Ann Archy

It’s how we finish the race. . . no matter what denomination. If you don’t believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, that He was born of a virgin, Mary, died for our sins, rose from the grave, and is now sitting at the right hand of the Father waiting for the Word to come again to claim those who believe . . . . and those who believe will meet Him in the air (after the dead in Christ rise). . . then what awaits is a sorrowful life forever in hell. That should be the universal message that ALL believers in Christ share with others.

http://www.patburt.com/ has a good prayer of salvation if you need to share with a loved one or friend who doesn’t know Jesus as his or her personal Savior.


83 posted on 09/07/2013 5:11:14 PM PDT by Maudeen (Proverbs 3:5-6)
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To: Maudeen

I agree.


84 posted on 09/07/2013 5:12:55 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: mountainlion

He would encourage people to voluntarily share their good fortune with those less fortunate.

He would not encourage the development of a gigantic governmental bureaucracy, extorting money from the populace (ultimately, at gunpoint) for the purpose of purchasing the votes of the beneficiaries of said extortion.


85 posted on 09/07/2013 5:13:40 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: steelhead_trout

Do they allow equal time for opposing views in that church?


86 posted on 09/07/2013 5:14:32 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Progressives are never accountable for "unintended consequences" .... just for causing most)
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To: metmom; miss marmelstein

She “misspoke” (mis-typed) - in the Catholic Mass, water is not changed into wine; wine is changed into the Blood of Christ, as was done at the Last Supper.


87 posted on 09/07/2013 5:19:44 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: steelhead_trout

heard not a peep at the Polish Catholic church here ... I will check the bulletin.


88 posted on 09/07/2013 5:20:19 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (we're the Beatniks now)
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To: steelhead_trout

89 posted on 09/07/2013 5:21:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: DuncanWaring

I know.....

And *I* keep getting castigated by Catholics for not knowing Catholic teachings.


90 posted on 09/07/2013 5:21:58 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: steelhead_trout

Your question opened you up to an onslaught of “selfie” advice that redirects us away from Our Suffering Lord in the Eucharist, spoils the fulfillment of our holy obligation to the Command of God concerning the Lord’s Day.

Why? To answer one political statement with another, during the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass? Not a chance.

Flyers on cars in the parking lot would be better.


91 posted on 09/07/2013 5:22:40 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: steelhead_trout
Find a traditional Latin mass in your area. The priest will preach on that Sunday's Gospel.

No nonsense. I guarantee it.

92 posted on 09/07/2013 5:23:26 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: Dick Vomer
walk out...quietly and respectfully..but walk out. That’s what I would do.


Thats what we did when our Priest first began extolling the virtues of homosexuality and “clarifying” the scriptural teachings to point out that the bible actually endorses homosexuality.

After having to walk out several weekends in a row for similar endorsements of pretty graphic descriptions of homosexual acts by the Priest in front of our 8 year old kids we left for another nearby church.

Same thing happened there.

Have not went back since.

93 posted on 09/07/2013 5:24:59 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: steelhead_trout

Don’t go and withhold your tithe for this week.


94 posted on 09/07/2013 5:25:27 PM PDT by Askwhy5times (http://bluegrasspundit.com/)
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To: James C. Bennett

You are promoting an ideology/Faith by promoting most anything. Catholic Theology is very specific and well-thought-out (for centuries) and based on Natural Law, because of St. Thomas A. (same as the USA’s Constitution).

This is promoting Marxism/lawlessness/special rights. You have a “useful idiot” priest. You should educate him with the Truth which he is supposed to make CLEAR all the time. If he has girl “altar boys”—he is a Marxist or “useful idiot”. Catholicism can NEVER blur the TRUTH and you do NOT confuse boys and girls and make them think that boys and girls are interchangeable (Marxism).

Children should have specific roles that doesn’t confuse their sexuality and which glorifies the masculine and the feminine which is always DIFFERENT. Marxism wants female/male roles to be destroyed....and children need to see the differences while they are growing up forming Worldview or they will be clamoring for women “priests” because of their confused, irrational upbringing. Catholics use Reason with Faith—all the time. Reason made us like God.

This support for destroying “Rule of Law” is not Catholic Theology-—is is Marxist ideology. Bella Dodd wrote a book on the homosexual Marxists who infiltrated the seminaries in the 30s and 40s. She was baptized by Abp. Sheen and confessed all her ties for decades with Communists.

This Homomafia which is controlling much of the US Bishops nowadays, has been documented recently......in Fr. Oko’s Report.

Truth is Clear!! The Catholic Church is only about proclaiming Truth and saving souls. It is very masculine-—to pick up the sword and fight and protect for Christ. We are killing off the masculine by blurring Truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d4eANuMXd8&list=TLPtuO1zU_Mus

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2013/02/fr-dariusz-okos-major-article-with-pope.html


95 posted on 09/07/2013 5:25:37 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: steelhead_trout

I am not catholic but was raised by a Pentecostal pastor, however........why would someone go to a church where they don’t believe in the sermons/mass?
Have a hard time wrapping my mind around that.


96 posted on 09/07/2013 5:26:04 PM PDT by sheana
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To: Ann Archy
If the homily is really torquing you, just take your rosary beads and walk over to the Lady-altar and pray a rosary until the homily is over.

It's the functional equivalent of walking out without walking out.

97 posted on 09/07/2013 5:26:58 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: All

These threads are going to be even funner once Francis starts going all-in on Liberation theology. Let’s see a Catholic pretzel!


98 posted on 09/07/2013 5:27:36 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: rdcbn

Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor (or thy priest(s) ).


99 posted on 09/07/2013 5:31:20 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Viennacon

Not if you know where to look....there is Truth still inside the Church like promised, but the Homomafia has the control over many US Bishops. There is a War inside the Catholic Church-—the laity needs to help bring the Truth Back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlaFkxrW5JM&list=TLPtuO1zU_Mus

All Catholics should read and understand this....

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2013/02/fr-dariusz-okos-major-article-with-pope.html


100 posted on 09/07/2013 5:32:30 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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