Of course you are wrong again. The woman in this instance is, of course, the true Church. In OT refer to Isa 54:5,6 and Jer. 6:2. When the church has become corrupted, then she is referred to as a impure woman Jer. 3:20 and Eze 23:2-4. The figure in Rev. 12 has produced the Christ and is later persecuted (as the early Church was). Clothed with the sun being the Glory of God accompanied by the 12 stars are the twelve Apostles who followed Him.
One’s overall spiritual attitude will color how one sees the scriptures.
I do weigh in on the side that says that unhealthy and unholy preoccupation with Mary and other saints does exist. It shows itself by not glorifying God ourselves. Mary might have more grace than the rest of the saints combined, but if she IS praying for her brothers and sisters, it would be for them to glorify the Lord too, not just to hail her and thank her and stop like she was some side show in the picture. I mean the thing Mary is sometimes likened to is a prayer warrior that you know. And so if you call up this prayer warrior, call him Ralph, you ask Ralph please pray for this issue. Well if Ralph does and God is then glorified in your life through a miraculous grace, what’s your response. “Thank you, Ralph”? Well yes, but also BOTH you and Ralph will be praising the Lord. That’s the element I see troublingly missing here. Mary’s praise can’t excuse your lack of praise.
Also the rosary system as it exists today seems to further trivialize the praise of God if it wasn’t trivialized enough before.
FOLKS! Saints’ praise can’t EVER take the place of YOUR praise! I got a big secret for y’all (not just Catholic but Protestant). Praising God while receiving His wondrous graces forever is going to be what heaven is about. We who are saved are now in a Holy Spirit taught school for the dance that is going to be heaven. We need to get PERSONALLY praising, SERIOUSLY. The Lord was not woofing when He said that He dwelt in the praises of His people! Hey, TRY it you’ll LIKE it as the story goes... well, actually get ready for some very serious divine loving. God will actually rattle your cage to get you moving forward. So there will be some temporary bummers, but only long enough for you to see the divine light and yield to it in a better way. His anger is but for a moment. It’s not like the devil’s rage which never quits except when he is acting sweet to tempt us into a bad place.
The "figure" who has given birth (not "produced") Jesus Christ is His mother, no?
It is true that Mary is a personification of the Catholic Church, not true that the Church "produced" Christ, -- it is the other way around.
“Well, Mary is depicted as queen, and in heaven in Rev. 12”
Of course you are wrong again. The woman in this instance is, of course, the true Church. In OT refer to Isa 54:5,6 and Jer. 6:2. When the church has become corrupted, then she is referred to as a impure woman Jer. 3:20 and Eze 23:2-4. The figure in Rev. 12 has produced the Christ and is later persecuted (as the early Church was). Clothed with the sun being the Glory of God accompanied by the 12 stars are the twelve Apostles who followed Him.”
Sorry, but I must disagree with you, Bob.
Please see:
http://www.biblegateway.com/resources/all-women-bible/Woman-Clothed-Sun
http://www.thebereancall.org/content/who-woman-clothed-sun