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To: daniel1212; BipolarBob; ctdonath2; metmom
vainly attempt to make Scripture teach this

Well, Mary is depicted as queen, and in heaven in Rev. 12, so if that is what you are referring to, indeed, there is ample reason to call Mary "Queen of Heaven"; that's what she is simply because Christ is king. My brief question was to highlight the fact that the Holy Scripture does not generally tell us who to call what.

229 posted on 08/19/2013 5:08:27 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex; daniel1212; BipolarBob; ctdonath2; metmom
" to highlight the fact that the Holy Scripture does not generally tell us who to call what."

But apparently you and your Church has no problem going where angels fear to tread.

234 posted on 08/19/2013 6:41:33 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: annalex
"Well, Mary is depicted as queen, and in heaven in Rev. 12"

Of course you are wrong again. The woman in this instance is, of course, the true Church. In OT refer to Isa 54:5,6 and Jer. 6:2. When the church has become corrupted, then she is referred to as a impure woman Jer. 3:20 and Eze 23:2-4. The figure in Rev. 12 has produced the Christ and is later persecuted (as the early Church was). Clothed with the sun being the Glory of God accompanied by the 12 stars are the twelve Apostles who followed Him.

235 posted on 08/19/2013 7:58:55 AM PDT by BipolarBob (The New and Improved RCC: No more inquisitions!!)
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To: annalex
Well, Mary is depicted as queen, and in heaven in Rev. 12,

oH?

Then why has 'she' no NAME?

Your church is merely GUESSING that the 'woman' is MARY.


6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

HMMMmmm...

What's 'MARY' doing out in the wildeness???

248 posted on 08/19/2013 11:27:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: annalex
Well, Mary is depicted as queen, and in heaven in Rev. 12, so if that is what you are referring to, indeed, there is ample reason to call Mary "Queen of Heaven"; that's what she is simply because Christ is king.

Rv. 12 is referring to Israel, but as Scripture is not your supreme basis for authority, i would like to ask if in your opinion is your interpretation that Mary is depicted as queen in heaven in Rev. 12 something RCs can disagree with? Does this or another view have the most ancient support?

My brief question was to highlight the fact that the Holy Scripture does not generally tell us who to call what.

It actually generally does as regards names and titles of significant people, with even their names signifying something and often their relationships. And its careful attribution and use of honorific titles (such as Abraham the friend of God, Moses the man of God, Jesus the Son of God, King of kings and Lord of lords, etc.), is to be observed, lest we think of men above that which is written, which admonishment Catholicism, with its 900+ titles etc. given to Mary, has not observed, nor with its multitude of clerical titles and ostentatious clothing.

263 posted on 08/19/2013 5:28:35 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: annalex

Mary is no more the queen of heaven or anything else than I am. As for Revelation 12, you’d better rethink that. I am amazed at how far gone you are!


1,362 posted on 09/13/2013 2:27:36 AM PDT by jodyel (tly)
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