Posted on 07/19/2013 5:39:12 AM PDT by fatima
http://www.spiritdaily.com/lorig.htm
For Father Lorig, going strong at 77 and full of the Spirit, it's a matter of seeing some of it with his own eyes.
On about a dozen occasions, says the priest, he has personally encountered spirits of the dead, including at bedside during the night, and has been led to pray their souls toward Jesus.
Father Lorig, who was ordained a Catholic priest in 1984, and who is married with four children (and fifteen grandchildren), had some special experiences while at Saint Andrew's Episcopal Church in Nogales (near the Mexican border).
"It was built over an Indian graveyard -- paleo-Indians who were peaceful," says Father Lorig, pastor of Saint Maria Goretti parish (he is not associated with previous claims at this church of the supernatural).
"While we were digging a sacrarium -- a dry well [for proper disposal of Communion wine] -- the workmen came upon hand-made pots. We called the University of Arizona, which had paleontologists, and they came down.
please see my post #200
please see my post #200
Thanks for the link at your post # 200. Very interesting.
You are welcome.
If those beings flee at the name of Jesus, that tells you all that you need to know. Don’t converse with demons! Keep praying to Jesus, and mock them instead. They’ve already lost.
They are with demons in disguise. Pray to Jesus when they appear and see what happens.
Bible is God alert...oh boy.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Which seems to me to show that salvation, once attained, cannot be lost.
As for your final statement, give the the verse, and I will check it out.
Nope, the Bible is FROM God.
He did it here:
"The priest has found an effective formula is to have a Mass said for any soul that seems to be disturbing a place and gently telling the soul, "Call to Jesus. Keep saying 'Jesus' over and over, until He comes.""
"He knew enough about the life of a soul to realize that the soul had a need for prayers, and so he prayed for them.
No, he did not know enough about the life of that soul to have any such realization. He had no way to know anything about the spirits except what he "felt" or what the spirits communicated to him, and demonic spirits lie, so their communications shouldn't be trusted.
“All he is doing is praying for them.”
No, he clearly communicates directly to them, in the article. He also is shown trying to divine their presence through his feelings, which certainly seems like he is seeking them out to communicate with them. Then, he’s holding a mass to communicate with them, so he is likely setting a specific time and place to make his communications with them. Essentially that is a seance, he is just calling it a “mass”.
Provide specific quotes from the article that show he is “communicating” with them. Also, show me where he is summoning them forth rather than them coming to him without provocation.
So far you haven’t proven that what this man is doing is anything like a séance.
“Provide specific quotes from the article that show he is “communicating” with them.”
I just did, didn’t I? He telling them something... that is direct communication.
As for summoning, I never said he was doing that. However, he is wandering around his church trying to “feel” their presence. Then he is setting up a mass to communicate with them. It’s a seance by another name.
Sorry, I confused 2 posts... post #212 has the quote where he is communicating directly with the spirits, during his “mass”.
Sure it is, but it is filtered through people. Only the holy spirit is the directness that we all need and can be felt , but not heard. Fhu.com has that silent pathway...btw, even in the last chapter of the new testament, it says if any take away from this book, so will be taken away from them in heaven. So it makes it clear right there that human manipulation can occur even with the bible.
fhu.com? Roy Masters.... no thanks. Push that new age junk elsewhere.
It’s not new age and I am not pushing it...just suggested. And Be Still is all over the bible. Sorry you are so judgmental...Roy is a very wise Jew who became a real Christian and even the US military is using the Be Still exercise. Some “Christians” are the most judgmental and wrong people of all!
Yes, he is new age, and of course I am judgemental of things that are of the antichrist. If I didn’t have good enough sense to judge that what he is selling is in opposition to the Gospel, then I wouldn’t be a very good Christian.
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