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The Cult has started a new ad campaign in New York [Where the Mormon tithe & temple fits in]
ExMormonforums.com ^ | Nov. 27, 2012 | Infymus

Posted on 11/28/2012 6:00:38 PM PST by Colofornian

http://www.lds.org/church/news/mormonor ... c?lang=eng

How about being straight up and saying that Mormons put on costumes and chant rituals in secret buildings that only 10% of gross earnings paid as "tithes" allow entrance?

Mormonism wants people to think they are normal that they are just Christians like everyone else. Each year they get rid of more and more of their embarrassing doctrines - or doctrines that aren't politically correct anymore. Apologist attack dogs fight any critics on technicalities.

Mormonism has one thing that works for them - and that is the funneling of cash from members to the Cult coffers. This is done through mandatory tithe. And in order to make this tithe work - and make the member believe in the Cult enough to pay - they have to have the secret temple ceremonies. You have to put a ton of make believe in there.

Stephen R. Donaldson is one of my favorite authors. In one of his series of books he explained how a great and noble group of leaders were slowly corrupted through the centuries by simple infiltration of ideas. The ideas changed the group slowly until they went from helping people to human sacrifices. The new leaders of the group knew what was going on - but they surrounded themselves with those who only had faith - not knowledge. Those who had faith were much stronger because they were driven by the new cult. Those who held faith were much easier to control.

Pondering the story Donaldson had written I saw the same manifested in the Cult of Mormonism. If you have members who are so convinced you are the one and only true Cult, they will not hesitate to open their pocketbooks and hand over everything. Mormonism needs this kind of special, secret, garment wearing, new name, pay lay ale - in order to keep the tithes flowing. If the cat is out of the bag, the tithing will stop.

So the reality is there is a certain point where Mormonism must stop moving towards Christianity - it has to because money is ultimately the top priority of the Cult. Money - Power - Control.

Look at all the recovery boards right now - even the NOM boards. What is the #1 topic right now because of upcoming December? Tithing. Tithing. Tithing. Oh and don't forget tithing. Sign up for tithing settlement. And don't forget to sign up for tithing settlement.

“All of our messaging is focused on helping people understand that Mormons are Christian,”

Naw, Mormonism isn't a Christian church. It's a secretive Cult with very cultish practices and it has to stay that way - or go broke.


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To: stuartcr; Andrei Bulba; Eric in the Ozarks; Ouderkirk; cricket; All
(So I take it you, Stuartcr -- and a few of the others pinged above -- disagree with this thread's content; that you are negative toward posters contributing to it; and that you are openly criticizing both content and posters)

Now please explain why/how it is that your negative & critical post is supposedly emotion-free and hate-free...if you infer that merely posting disagreeable, negative critiques of Mormonism somehow constitutes "hate."

Furthermore, you be sure to label anybody who posts content that is critical of homosexuality and Islam as "hate mongers."

In fact, have you done that on other threads; and, if not, why haven't you?

I've seen ALL kinds of negative content vs. Islam on FR. Is that "hate mongering," too...or are you simply selectively hypocritical on this???

81 posted on 11/28/2012 9:29:36 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: svcw

Don’t hold your breath this time either...


82 posted on 11/28/2012 9:31:14 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: svcw

Here’s what I found on the internet;

verb (used with object)
1. to dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest:

If you honestly cannot recognise any of this on anti-Mormonism threads, then there really is no more to say on this thread.


83 posted on 11/28/2012 9:33:37 PM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Colofornian

Thanks. Also, let me say, since I probably haven’t said it in a while, thank you for posting these threads. You get plenty of hateful comments, but I’m sure there are a lot of folks like me who actually enjoy your postings and are glad that you are out there witnessing against these false teachers. We are probably just not as winded up as the objectors, so maybe we’re not as motivated to ring in all the time.

Here’s how I look at the subject. Christians should be polite, but politeness can also be a tactic to avoid distasteful things. Sometimes, the Christian duties we are commanded to do by God can themselves seem distasteful, or difficult to us. So, it can be quite easy to use the excuse of being polite and proper to excuse ourselves from doing something that we really should do.

I think everyone who is Christian, and who objects to your posts, should ask themselves: if one of your loved ones told you they were joining a pseudo-Christian cult like Mormonism, would you be polite, and say nothing, or would you try to warn them of the dangers and convince them to reverse their course?

Now, if you answer that you would warn that loved one, ask yourself, are Christians not commanded to love EVERYONE? Therefore, should we not also warn all of those loved ones away from these damnable cults? Or should we be polite about it so nobody accuses us of bigotry?


84 posted on 11/28/2012 9:34:39 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
I’d just about lay money that every single Christian who is aware enough to be out there condemning Mormonism also object to Islam just as vehemently.

It was to easy to check your veracity. I looked down the Religion Forum and found several articles attacking Mormons but not even one against Islam.

I say again, why don't you guys give it rest for a while. Romney lost and you are beating a dead horse. Are all the articles your personal wolfbane. If anything, Mormonism is good for keeping alcoholics off of the streets. What do you expect to gain from the Mormon bashing?

85 posted on 11/28/2012 9:37:59 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: stuartcr; All
Accusing another Freeper of hatred is reading his mind which is a form of "making it personal" on the Religion Forum.

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

86 posted on 11/28/2012 9:38:39 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: stuartcr

You did not say anti-mormonISM you said anti-mormon - they are not the same.


87 posted on 11/28/2012 9:41:53 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: stuartcr

I think we all know what the word hate means, but I think the issue is more, what is the object of this “hate” everyone complains about?

FReepers are accusing other FReepers of bigotry, which is saying they hate Mormons. I don’t think that is a factually true accusation. All of these threads have always been solely in opposition to MormonISM, not Mormon people.

Now, if you want to accuse me of hating MormonISM, then I’ll gladly accept the charge and plead guilty. I think I’ll be in good company, though, because I believe that God Himself hates and detests MormonISM with a passion that far exceeds my own. However, if you are going to accuse me of hating Mormon people, then I’m going to have a big problem with that one. I love Mormon people, which is actually the main reason why I hate MormonISM!


88 posted on 11/28/2012 9:46:00 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Colofornian

Yawn.


89 posted on 11/28/2012 9:46:26 PM PST by Dagnabitt (The USA - Fun while it lasted.)
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To: stuartcr

Yes, and you are correct I detest and loath the blasphemy of mormonISM and I will expose it every chance I have.
I love mormons, which is why I care so much, I weep that they have fallen for mormonISM.


90 posted on 11/28/2012 9:46:57 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Colofornian

I never said my posts were emotion free, but they are hate free. My comments are negative and critical of both the content and posters. The difference is, I don’t start the same religious-oriented threads over and over to make sure everyone hears me.

I have done that with others.

Of course it’s hate-mongering, although I don’t use that term like you did, I just said you didn’t lose much time after the election to keep the ole hate going, regardless of the season.

Personally, I don’t think what I said is anything near hate, compared to what you keep saying.

g’nite


91 posted on 11/28/2012 9:48:15 PM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: svcw

Please read it again.


92 posted on 11/28/2012 9:50:14 PM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Colofornian
There is death beyond a body that stops breathing.

Watch the video of Nick Berg being beheaded and say that again. Watch the video of Neda Agha-Soltan, shot in the chest while watching the Iranian election protester.

93 posted on 11/28/2012 9:51:03 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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Rgr that, sorry. I’m gone for tonite anyway. These kinds of posts make me feel icky.


94 posted on 11/28/2012 9:51:53 PM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Boogieman

Please read #83 again.


95 posted on 11/28/2012 9:53:40 PM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: svcw

Try to wipe the tears away, calm down and read completely before typing.


96 posted on 11/28/2012 9:56:17 PM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr

i do get why you would not understand what I wrote, so for the edification of others this is what I posted:
Yes, and you are correct I detest and loath the blasphemy of mormonISM and I will expose it every chance I have.
I love mormons, which is why I care so much, I weep that they have fallen for mormonISM.


97 posted on 11/28/2012 10:03:21 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: higgmeister

“It was to easy to check your veracity. I looked down the Religion Forum and found several articles attacking Mormons but not even one against Islam.”

My statement wasn’t intended to mean that every Christian is out there posting as many articles on the FR Religion Forum against Islam as Colorfornian does on Mormonism. What I mean is, any Christian who would vocally object to Mormonism, is also going to vocally object to Islam, if the subject is on the table. At least, I can say I’ve never met a Christian who would view the one unfavorably, and the other favorably.

In fact, it’s really the other way around. There are far more Christians who would vehemently denounce Islam, but have little problem with Mormonism. That’s one of the reasons there are fewer articles on the Religion Forum about the dangers of Islam: there wouldn’t be any debate on the subject! Why preach to the choir?

“I say again, why don’t you guys give it rest for a while. Romney lost and you are beating a dead horse.”

It’s been said a billion times, but I’ll say it again. These threads aren’t about Romney! They’re about Mormonism, the religion. These same types of threads, from the same posters, have been posted to this forum for years before Romney was running for President, and they will probably continue to be posted to the forum when Romney is just a bad memory we all look back on and slap our foreheads over.

“If anything, Mormonism is good for keeping alcoholics off of the streets.”

So were the Nazis... what in tarnation does that have to do with anything?

“What do you expect to gain from the Mormon bashing?”

First of all, I don’t agree that other FReepers, are bashing Mormons. I oppose the false cult of Mormonism, as it is a belief system that leads people away from Christ and the hope of salvation. I don’t hope to personally gain anything from that, I’m more interested in what Mormons can gain from waking up to the spiritual danger of Mormonism.


98 posted on 11/28/2012 10:05:41 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: stuartcr

I stand by my statement, for this reason alone you seem, it appears to follow all anti-mormonISM posts and try and make them about the poster and mormons.
Even though you may not have said it on this thread (which I do not concede) you have said it on others........and there you have it.


99 posted on 11/28/2012 10:06:47 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: higgmeister

Well, I have an idea rather than searching for all those people who have not posted a thread about islam, why do not you spend the same amount of time posting anti-islam threads in the religion forum - then ping us when you do - k?


100 posted on 11/28/2012 10:10:11 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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