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“Theologians” against bishops on unnatural sex
What Does The Prayer Really Say? ^ | 5/13/12 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 05/13/2012 9:19:33 AM PDT by markomalley

From Catholic World News:

Theologians blast US bishops on same-sex marriage

Three theologians who teach at Jesuit institutions  [Jesuit schools again ... what a surprise...] –Paul Lakeland of Fairfield University, Daniel Maguire of Marquette University, and Frank Parella of Santa Clara University–blasted the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops for its opposition to same-sex marriage. [A suggestion to parents of children approaching college age: refuse to help or to pay for anything for children to go to any of these schools!]

“[Cardinal Timothy] Dolan and the United States Catholic Conference are misrepresenting ‘Catholic teaching,’  [This is rich,] and are trying to present their idiosyncratic minority view as the ‘Catholic position,’ [Whose view is idiosyncratic?] and it is not,” said Maguire in an e-mail. “The bishops will stand with Dolan and the US Catholic Conference, but on this issue, they are in moral schism[ROFL!  He must be getting soft in the head.] since most in the Church have moved on [to] a more humane view on the rights of those whom God has made gay.” [How many things are wrong with that?  God doesn't make people "gay" (and I hate the misappropration of that word, which disguises the moral turpitude of homosexual acts).  That's absurd.  Even if it could be demonstrated that there is a strong "nature" argument, homosexual acts are contrary to human nature.  Thus, it is far more inhumane (which term seems to me more applicable to how we treat dogs than human beings) to approve of actions that kill the soul, offend God, and create social confusion.  Moreover, Maguire knows better than to suggest that Catholic doctrine is determined by majorities or shifting mores.  That's just plain stupid.]

Most Catholic theologians approve of same-sex marriage [Gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.  Thus, NO, Macquire, they DON'T.  Furthermore, if there were a majority among those who self-identify as "Catholic theologians", such a statement would exclude them from actually being "Catholic theologians".  They might be "theologians" of some sort, but they would not really be "Catholic" in an authentic sense, because they would be upholding something directly contrary to perennial Catholic doctrine.] and Catholics generally do not differ much from the overall population on this issue,” [So what?] Maguire added. Maguire, an ex-priest, has also been a stalwart defender of legal abortion. [But remember: Jesuits give him a paycheck.]

Parella said he sees “nothing in the Gospels” [Two problems: Holy Scripture is more than the Gospels alone, and Catholic doctrine is not determined by Scripture along.] that should lead the Church to oppose same-sex marriage, [piffle] while Lakeland said that the US bishops’ opposition to same-sex marriage is “not really an argument that has a theological justification.” [I can't see any justification for him to receive a paycheck from a Catholic school.]

Homosexual acts are sinful.

Same-sex marriage is NOT a civil rights issue.

Same-sex relationships cannot be true marriages.

Calling such relationship “marriages”, even legally, will not make them true marriages in the eyes of God and Holy Church.


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1 posted on 05/13/2012 9:19:37 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Time to insist that their “Catholic” theologian’s license be pulled. These colleges are ignoring Pope Benedict’s call for authentic Catholic instruction. US bishops, especially those from the liberal enclaves of Sam Francisco are spineless.


2 posted on 05/13/2012 9:34:04 AM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: markomalley

“God has made gay”???

What percentage of “gays” were sexually molested as minors?


3 posted on 05/13/2012 9:40:27 AM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: markomalley
These "theologians" are Jesuits, a heretical, largely homosexual sect within the Catholic Church. Far from the original Holy Order established by St Ignatius, their absurdities are no longer a surprise. They in fact have abandoned their defining allegiance to the papacy and are no longer even considered by many to be loyal Catholics.
4 posted on 05/13/2012 9:41:25 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: markomalley
As a Sola Scripturist lol, homosexuality is condemned in the Bible and it is against Christian teachings. A civil union with full state rights (but not extra rights) should suffice the sodomites.
5 posted on 05/13/2012 9:42:49 AM PDT by BipolarBob ("Oh no, I'm not sick, well I'm not physically sick anyway. Mentally I'm sick beyond any doctor's abi)
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To: markomalley
When will there be a divorce of the Catholic church from the Jesuits?
6 posted on 05/13/2012 9:43:14 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: markomalley

Buggery is non-physiologic.


8 posted on 05/13/2012 10:04:39 AM PDT by seton89 (Are the Ten Commandments a living document?)
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To: markomalley

Maquire has been a stain on Marquette for decades. That he remains is a tragedy.


9 posted on 05/13/2012 10:08:31 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: markomalley

There is nothing so perverse a gay marriage. Marriage is an agreement between a man and a women for the purpose of procreation. The idea of a couple of perverts joining together for the perpose of defeating procreation is illogical. The real purpose for the gay marriage argument is to take from the status of the intitution as an honorable one, and the eventual dismantlement of the social morays that place homosexuality were it is in people’s minds. The argument for ‘gay marriage’ is an evil one.


10 posted on 05/13/2012 11:21:29 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: markomalley

There is nothing so perverse a gay marriage. Marriage is an agreement between a man and a women for the purpose of procreation. The idea of a couple of perverts joining together for the perpose of defeating procreation is illogical. The real purpose for the gay marriage argument is to take from the status of the intitution as an honorable one, and the eventual dismantlement of the social morays that place homosexuality were it is in people’s minds. The argument for ‘gay marriage’ is an evil one.


11 posted on 05/13/2012 11:22:55 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: markomalley

The Jesuits in general, and Daniel Maguire in particular, went off the rails, as regards the Catholic faith, a LONG time ago.


12 posted on 05/13/2012 11:45:16 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: markomalley

You will usually find that theologins in catholic and protestant churches in favor of homosexuality are also converts to the arian heresy. (the arian heresy is why conservative catholic and evangelical churches regularly recite the Nicean creed.) why this confluence?

According to the Arian heresy Jesus just a man. a very good man but nevertheless just a man.

The problem here is that this reduces the central mystery of Christianity to a human sacrifice.

Anyone familiar with archaeology knows that human sacrifice was practiced at one time in the middle east europe asia south asia oceana and the americas. The practice of human sacrifice was almost always accompanied by homosexuality in the priesthood.

Even if one does not admit to the divinity of Jesus, one does have to admit that he is the primary driver for the abolishion of human sacrifice throughout the world—a practice that runs deep into prehistory.

For some reason human sacrifice and homosexuality inhabit the same moral universe. (which is why homosexuals sudden growth in power began at the same time as the institution of roe v wade.)


13 posted on 05/13/2012 11:49:58 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: markomalley

Time for these un-Catholic profs to take a hike and not teach in a Catholic college.


14 posted on 05/13/2012 12:32:28 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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15 posted on 05/13/2012 12:37:54 PM PDT by narses
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To: maxwellsmart_agent
eventual dismantlement of the social morays

I think you mean mores.

A moray is an eel.

16 posted on 05/13/2012 1:02:24 PM PDT by seton89 (Are the Ten Commandments a living document?)
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To: seton89
A moray is an eel.

But are they social?

17 posted on 05/13/2012 1:40:23 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Remember our veterans, today and every day!)
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But are they social?

Depends on the tempora.

18 posted on 05/13/2012 1:57:43 PM PDT by seton89 (Are the Ten Commandments a living document?)
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To: seton89

I’d have to be pretty hungry to try moray tempura.


19 posted on 05/13/2012 1:59:15 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Remember our veterans, today and every day!)
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To: Tax-chick
"But are they social?"

Once a year and after that, they never write, they never call . . .

20 posted on 05/13/2012 2:01:34 PM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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