Princess Diana baptised as a Mormon

Monstersandcritics.com ^ | Feb. 29, 2012

[Colofornian]

Britain's late Princess Diana has been posthumously baptised a Mormon.

The royal - who was killed in a Paris car crash in August 1997 - was 'baptised' by the church after her death, even though she didn't belong to the religion.

Diana - former wife of heir to the throne Prince Charles - was listed by her maiden name, Diana Frances Spencer, with her address as the family seat of Althorp, Northamptonshire.

Her file also includes her birth and death date, according to the Daily Mail newspaper.

Other late stars to have been 'baptised' posthumously include Charlie Chaplin, Marilyn Monroe and Rita Hayworth.

The Mormon Church believes that in the afterlife no one is beyond redemption, no matter how evil they were, so the list also includes Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler.

Helen Radkey has been investigating the Mormon Church - which is one of the world's fastest growing religions with 14 million followers, almost half in the US.

Using a computer log-on passed to her by a disaffected follower, she researched the databases in the Church's Family History Library and found that the names of hundreds of thousands of dead people had been logged, so they could be baptised as Mormons.

[Elsie]

Anti-Mormons sanctimonious and self-righteous? Perish the thought!

Nice SELF reference you've posted here!

[Colofornian]

For those that suggest that “no one is harmed” by this practice, does it bother you at all that they use children as young as 12 to stand in and to be “dunked” for people they don’t even know?

Excellent point & one I'll add to the list of...
...catering to idolatry in setting up rival "saviors" to Jesus as Savior...
...a tremendous distraction from serving those who exist within arm's reach of REAL ministry...
...a waste of people's lives [$ isn't the only stewardship]
...provides a false sense of security [I can live anyway I want & then just meet the Mormon missionary after I die & accept the offer then]
...provokes needless controversy [point made twice by the apostle Paul about genealogies -- Titus 3:9; 1 Tim. 1:3-4]
...isn't faith-promoting [point made by Paul about genealogies -- 1 Tim. 1:3-4]
...and something even all seem to agree on with Paul (Titus 3:9) -- that it's useless.

Tell us, LadyDoc & DManA -- why do only choose to agree with the apostle Paul on one of his three points?

[Elsie]

Anti-Mormons sanctimonious and self-righteous? Perish the thought!

Hmmm...

If ANTI-mormonISM folks are this way; I just wonder what MORMONs are like???

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Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).

Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).

 

 

 

Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).

 

 

 

Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).

 

 

 

Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses

, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).

 

 

President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).

 

 

 

James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).

 

 

 

President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).

 

 

 

More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).

 

 

 

President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).

 

 

President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

[Elsie]

If God decides to forgive Hitler that is none of my business.

Then WHY waste your valuable time in these threads??

Is it merely to point out problems with the LOGIC of the situtation?

[Elsie]

For the record, I have no hatred of Mormons.

It appears that the new folks haven't learned that equating HATRED for a HELLISH religion is NOT the same as HATRED for those deceived by those demons.

[Elsie]

So is the Jewish religion, if the NT is literally true. Agreed?

Even the Christian 'religion' will send you to hell!

Get all caught up in the trappings and rituals and traditions and whatever, and FORGET your First Love and THEN see what happens to you!

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John 6:28-29 (niv)

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

 

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1 John 3:21-24

  Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him.  And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us.  The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.

[DManA]

As I said their practices are blasphomous. My only point is there is no reason for a Christian to be upset about it if they do it to you or a family member who died in Christ.

Have a little faith that God’s got it under control.

[magritte]

he more I look at it the more the I see the “White Horse” of Mormonism

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FINALLY, the White Horse has shown up! Took long enough!

[Elsie]

Proposing that these rites, although not to be found anywhere in any scripture known to Christianity, are somehow “Christian” even in the face of the Biblical scripture that condemns the practice as paganism.

Heck; they cannot be found in any of OUR Scriptures; either!!

--MormonDude(What's up wit dat??)

[Elsie]

What if a group went around, ‘flaping their gums’, that yer gramma was a WHORE on Main Street.

Why would THAT upset anyone; as it’s just talk...

[Elsie]

11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.

I kinda like #6 & 7.

The language is SO precise!!

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Here is MORMONism's own creed:

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Articles of Faith

The Articles of Faith outline 13 basic points of belief of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The Prophet Joseph Smith first wrote them in a letter to John Wentworth, a newspaper editor,
in response to Mr. Wentworth's request to know what members of the Church believed.
They were subsequently published in Church periodicals.
They are now regarded as scripture and included in the Pearl of Great Price.

 

THE ARTICLES OF FAITH
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
History of the Church, Vol. 4, pp. 535—541

 

 

1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
   
2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
   
3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
   
4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
   
5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
   
6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
   
7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
   
8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
   
9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
   
10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
    
11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
    
12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
    
13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith

 

[Elsie]

It’s your own fault for going to the web site.

[Elsie]

I try, almost every day, to explain MORMON heresy to Christians. whomever will listen!

[Elsie]

FINALLY, the White Horse has shown up! Took long enough!

He didn't want the jackass to be lonely.

[Elsie]

...and so forth?????

[magritte]

Nah, you was already here serving up a heaping helping of cut-n-paste anti-Mormon Spam !!

[Colofornian]

As I said their practices are blasphomous. My only point is there is no reason for a Christian to be upset about it if they do it to you or a family member who died in Christ.

I'm sorry, but to me this is a bit broader than what you keep trying to reduce it to -- which is either personal offense or personal offense on behalf of a deceased family member.

Take a visit sometime to where cult members have "flamed out" -- HeavensGate in CA; Jim Jones & almost 900 in Guyana; Koresh in Waco; others where people have died naturally...

Those are all wasted lives -- devoted to a personality cult.

Loyalty was transferred from God to the human personality; the true Gospel of the real Jesus Christ wasn't spread...

Marion Romney was in the 1960s one of the three highest-ranking Mormons...(a cousin of Mitt Romney's father, George).

At one point, Marion Romney said the Mormon church was "the Way, the Truth, and the Life" -- thereby usurping John 14:6...a statement applying to Jesus Christ -- and substituting the Mormon church.

That's what Baptism of the dead does. Joseph Smith once said that baptizing dead people was THE most important responsibility of the Mormon church. This is not just some sideline hobby of the Mormon church; they invest literally millions of man-hours in research, in temple rituals, travel, coallating data, etc. For what purpose? For something the apostle Paul said was "unprofitable."

The bottom line, DManA? We are supposed to love our neighbor. And when we see our neighbor wasting their lives away, it's more than simple "don't take personal offense." Loving our neighbor means putting ourselves in their place, and then asking, would I want this to happen to me...to my family members?

The answer with this practice is a definitive "no" for all the reasons I listed and more.

Friends don't let their friends drive their lives as if to dunk a proxy was the most important responsibility in this life.

That is Christianless religiosity.

[Colofornian]

(To Elz) Nah, you was already here serving up a heaping helping of cut-n-paste anti-Mormon Spam !!

Well, since you rarely vary in your one-line drivel, Mag, you might as well compact it into cut & pastes, saving some time in the process.

Then you could keep churning out your cut-n-paste anti-anti-Mormon spam!

[greyfoxx39]

Christianless religiosity

I really like that description. It describes mormonism to a "T".

[ansel12]

These Christians that you are fighting have helped save Mormon souls on these threads, you fight the Christians and want them to stop.

Why you are dedicating your efforts and energy to Mormonism is puzzling.