Posted on 02/29/2012 6:04:50 PM PST by Colofornian
Britain's late Princess Diana has been posthumously baptised a Mormon.
The royal - who was killed in a Paris car crash in August 1997 - was 'baptised' by the church after her death, even though she didn't belong to the religion.
Diana - former wife of heir to the throne Prince Charles - was listed by her maiden name, Diana Frances Spencer, with her address as the family seat of Althorp, Northamptonshire.
Her file also includes her birth and death date, according to the Daily Mail newspaper.
Other late stars to have been 'baptised' posthumously include Charlie Chaplin, Marilyn Monroe and Rita Hayworth.
The Mormon Church believes that in the afterlife no one is beyond redemption, no matter how evil they were, so the list also includes Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler.
Helen Radkey has been investigating the Mormon Church - which is one of the world's fastest growing religions with 14 million followers, almost half in the US.
Using a computer log-on passed to her by a disaffected follower, she researched the databases in the Church's Family History Library and found that the names of hundreds of thousands of dead people had been logged, so they could be baptised as Mormons.
It is more akin to telling you that someone is desecrating your mothers grave.
Some thought, some kindness, we beg them to stop stalking our families and using them in their ceremonies, Holocaust survivors beg them to stop it, but nothing can stop the cult.
That isn’t kindness, or nice. I don’t know why you labor so hard to sell it to us.
I got a really dumb question:
Do the Mormons practice dead-dunking on MUSLIMS?
Haven’t heard that they do. If not, why not?
""My memories of my mother are her spiritual remains, something of her nature, her thoughts, a whisper of the person that she was, a fragment of memory, a whisper of her soul that still lives on this earth, will be passed down from generation to generation forever, a voice for good whose name may lost. Her spiritual remains have been desecrated just as much as if the Mormons had dug her body up out of her Catholic cemetery and moved it to a Mormon one. Would you say there was no harm, no wrong, no injury, to me or to any of my parents descendants because we believed she was still buried next to my father?
Well this is far worse, this is not her body, this is the essence of her soul! My mother spent many hours in the last years of life on her knees before God, the Holy One of Israel, who so loved the world that He sent His Only Begotten Son to die upon that cross for our sons.
Putting things to right with Him was her first order, facing her sins, confessing them, seeking forgiveness, and then as a gift for that forgiveness, to make amends to any she felt she had wronged or who felt they had been wronged by her (but don't get me wrong, my mother always was a kind and decent human being) and in tandem were many hours of prayer for the the welfare and spiritual well being of her children, her grandchildren, nieces and nephews, friends (AND our country.)
When I look how seriously she took her faith, and her relationship with God, and the whole business of dying, it scares me. I'm entering my senior years and I know I have a lot work to do (again don't get me wrong, my mother was also a fun person and not ever a pious, sanctimonious holier than thou goody-two-shoes -- my mother would not have a problem with voting for Newt Gingrich!)
How dare these Mormons assume that my mother did not make serious spiritual decisions regarding the state of her immortal soul, her moral values, and the kind of life she wanted to live, not to mention her decision about what to believe, and her choice of faith, right down to her choice of denomination.
How dare they in their smug simple-minded superiority, with their absolutely ridiculous theology, think they have the right to overrule her, to negate the whole point and purpose and direction of her life, which was to be reborn, to be cleansed and forgiven and made a new person, to be made holy and found worthy to enter the Kingdom of God (not the celestial kind, I really don't think she would enjoy being everlastingly pregnant) to have fellowship forever with God, and with His Saints and His Angels. And to do so as a Roman Catholic!
Just who do these Mormons think they are? How dare they? This is an outrage, whether it is done in secret or not, or whether I know about it or not. The ones who have sinned are the ones who have violated my mother's legacy, her memory, her spirit; not the one who would expose it.
And the very fact that those egotistical self-important Mormons who know nothing about my mother, who would desecrate her name and her memory, violate the spiritual inheritance left to her children, are the ones who are in the wrong doing this insulting demeaning thing to our family, then when found out, point their spiritually immature (if not dead) self-excusing self-righteous fingers at those who exposed their evil doings as being the ones in the wrong, after they committed this crime against our family in secret.
You would deny my right to my feelings so no wrong is done by those who HAVE done wrong! Isn't denying me the right to have feelings on this matter, a wrong also? I should not have to detach myself from this wound, this unholy violation of what was most sacred to my mother. I am not the one who should force myself to be indifferent to this wrong -- so you can then claim that no wrong has been done. This my mother and she has been wronged, and so have I!
I have a right to be outraged at this this monstrous insult. These mormons not only attempt to steal away my mother's faith, to substitute it with something she found repugnant, they denigrate my faith too which is the same as my mother's -- my mother would NEVER want to be associated with such a shallow, spiritually blind and in her view, utterly immoral, cult, and I don't want her name associated with it either and I should not have to stuff my feelings about it, and pretend they don't matter so the mormons can get away with not being responsible for the wrong they have done.
And I am still alive, my feelings should count, I have a right to be angry about this! It is bad enough I have lost my mother and my very best friend, I don't need this ugly festering hurt.
I suspect that Daniel Pearl's parents feel exactly this way too.
And what an outrage to dead-dunk Princess Diana. Her mother-in-law is the temporal head of the COE, her only husband and the father of her children will someday be, and then someday her son, and his son after him. What an insult to the people of England, these callous inconsiderate conceited mormons, to so demean and diminish the great British empire's beautiful, centuries old Christian denomination!"
There is nothing I could add that would make a better point.
For those that suggest that “no one is harmed” by this practice, does it bother you at all that they use children as young as 12 to stand in and to be “dunked” for people they don’t even know?
As Mormons love to close their testimonies, “I know this to be true”.
1 - A LDS perspective on Muhammed (LDS.org)
http://www.lds.org/ensign/2000/08/a-latter-day-saint-perspective-on-muhammad?lang=eng
2 - U.S. Muslims share friendship, similar values with Mormons (LA Times, published in 2008)
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr/02/local/me-morlims2
3 - Mormonism and Islam: Commonality and Cooperation Between Abrahamic Faiths (March 10 & 11, 2011 - Utah Valley University)
http://www.uvu.edu/religiousstudies/mormonismandislam/ (The Islamic Translation Series is designed not only to further scholarship in
the study of Islamic philosophy, theology, and mysticism, but, by encouraging
the translation of Islamic texts into the technical language of contemporary
Western scholarship, to assist in the integration of Islamic studies into
Western academia and to promote global perspectives in the disciplines to which
it is devoted.)
4 - Ask a Mormon: What do Mormons think of Muslims (March 2010 - MormonWoman.org)
http://mormonwoman.org/2010/03/15/ask-a-mormon-woman-what-do-mormons-think-about-islam/
5 - Mormons and Muslims break fast together (Ramadan 2010 - Deseret News)
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705386347/Mormons-Muslims-break-the-fast-in-Southern-California.html 7 - Muslims attending BYU focus on similarities between Islam, LDS tenets (Deseret News - Dec 2009)
Right, exactly: ‘By Grace you have been saved through faith..that no man may boast’!
And it was the greatest thing that I (JJS) have ever heard!!!
The more I look at it the more the I see the “White Horse” of Mormonism, the Madhi (sp?) of Islam and the Anti-Christ as the same evil person!
How do they learn about it? They don’t learn about it from the Mormons.
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I did
Straight from the horses mouth...err dead dunk files...
Until 2009 when the dead dunking in June 2008 of Stanley Ann Dunham the mother of Barak Hussein Obama was discovered, anyone could access the Mormon dead dunk rolls...
I already had found my happily-dead-as-Christians ancestors in the Mormons own website..
at least one ancestor had very ambition Mormon pagan rites performed...
dead dunking endowments, and sealing to ALL the descendants dead and ALIVE down to thos already born by that 1950s date
That included ME, making me a mormon...
Dont tell me it didnt effect me...
That I didnt care that my Christian ancestors and I had been violated..
It was sickening...I was unAmerican...It was unConstitutional..
and it was definitely unCHRISTIAN..
BTW getting back to Obama and his Mom...
Stan Ann was a happy atheist when she died..
Barry her son was a devout Moslem when he was sealed to hios Mom to make him a Mormon..
We now have a MORMON PRESIDENT...
There is no Mormon rite as far as I know to undo the pagan rites for the dead and the descendants...
Barry will stay a MORMON PRESIDENT until he turmned “white and delightsome”
or loses the election in Nov whichever comes first..
Now you wouldnt want to fail to vote for a Mormon wouldcha ???
That would be BIGOTRY besides being RACIST..
Barry aint turned completely yet..
(This is a belief of the Mormons)
If the mormons are to be believed on this issue, then one should probably consider the following...
11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
See, they claim in their creed that they are respecters of other faiths, yet their actions are in conflict with their words.
Also note the use of the word "allow". Really? "Allow"? Like I need your permission to worship how I choose.
As a former mormon, I don't find this surprising that they would put their own desires above the desires of others, especially in a matter as sensitive as this.
IOW, it's hypocritical. They say one thing and do another.
It's also blasphemy in that they believe they can be "saviors" to the dead through this pagan ritual.
How does that make you a Mormon? If a Mormon priest says you’re a horse it doesn’t make you a horse.
It’s your own fault for going to the web site.
Just pissing a lot of folks off, is all.
Dead zombies chase down live people;
Live MORMONs chase down dead people.
WOW
You dont give up do you ???
Dead zombies chase down live people;
Live MORMONs chase down dead people.
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Same ting
I try, almost every day, to explain MORMON heresy to Christians.
Sometimes, just 'flapping yer gums' gets yer FACE mashed in.
They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.Who has made this so?Have I?Have this people?Have the world?No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.Can you pass without his inspection?No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?
--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224
Yet missionairies in the East do it all day long.
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