Posted on 06/13/2011 6:54:18 PM PDT by Gamecock
You Might Just Be A Calvinist If .
If you have a Martin Luther Jell-O mold you just might be a Calvinist.
If your DVR has over 25 episodes of Wretched With Todd Friel recorded on it you just might be a Calvinist.
If your childs first word was Westminster you just might be a Calvinist.
If your 4 year old can explain what the word propitiation means you might just be a Calvinist.
If you send your mother tulips on Mothers Day you might be a Calvinist.
If your passion for evangelism blows away your Arminian friends you might just be a (true) Calvinist.
If you hate rap music BUT you listen to Lecrea, The Cross Movement, Flame or D.A. T.R.U.T.H. because of the lyrics and theology you might be a Calvinist.
If quotes from Pink, Spurgeon, Luther, Piper, and McArthur make up 90% of your Facebook statuses you might be a Calvinist.
If you still remember the 8 speakers in order from the recent T4G conference you might be a Calvinist.
If you cringe every time you hear someone proclaim God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life! Choose Jesus! you might be a Calvinist.
If youve ever wanted to attend a Benny Hinn crusade just so you could stand up and shout Ichabod!! you might just be a Calvinist.
If you purposefully read a book to be convicted you might just be a Calvinist.
If a free Bible or book has ever arrived in the mail to you from John McArthur you might be a Calvinist.
If you have to order theological books online because no one at the Christian bookstore has ever heard of them you might just be a Calvinist.
If you have ever purchased 100 or more copies of the same John Piper book to hand out to random people you meet you just might be a Calvinist.
If you ever have found yourself thinking My pastors sermon was particularly Spurgeonesque this morning you just might be a Calvinist.
If you read The Purpose Driven Life just to see how bad the book really is you might just be a Calvinist.
If you go to your bookshelf in search of a particular John MacArthur book only to discover that your 14 year old son is reading it up in his bedroom you might just be a Calvinist.
If you purchased an MP3 player with the sole purpose of downloading sermons you might be a Calvinist.
If you were shocked to just discover that some people download MP3 files that are not sermons you might be a Calvinist.
If you have adjusted the default passage setting at www.biblegateway.org from NIV to ESV you might be a Calvinist.
If while visiting friends or familys homes you hid their copy of The Shack (for their own good) you might just be a Calvinist.
If your preacher says to turn to Obadiah and you do not use the index you might be a Calvinist.
If your teenagers are excited that your churchs youth group is learning Biblical theology and being spiritually challenged instead of playing stupid games and eating pizza . you might just be a Calvinist.
If you think a 50-minute sermon is too short you might be a Calvinist.
If youve ever heard a wave of groans sweep through Sunday School when you refer to Romans 9 you might be a Calvinist.
If you find yourself talking to the Lord Jesus more than to your family you might be a Calvinist.
If you get irritated when you visit a Christian bookstore and ask where they keep the books on deeper theology and they point you to the Joel Osteen section you might just be a Calvinist.
If you find yourself wanting to read your Bible instead of watching television you might be a Calvinist.
If quotes from Pink, Spurgeon, Luther, Piper, and McArthur pop into your head at random times during the day you might be a Calvinist.
If you can barely contain your laughter when someone refers to Joyce Meyer as a minister you might just be a Calvinist.
If you are confused when someone uses the term my Bible as if they only have one you might be a Calvinist.
If your Bibles must be replaced in less than a year due to pages separating from the spine you might be a Calvinist.
If you smile, nod and hold your tongue with your teeth after a lively church service when someone says, God showed up today you might be a Calvinist.
If youve ever shouted YES! when the pastor says to turn to 1st Thessalonians you might be a Calvinist.
If you see 6:37 on a digital clock and think of the Lord Jesus words in John you might be a Calvinist.
If youve muted a Thanksgiving football game because its interfering with your family discussion of Ephesians 1 you might be a Calvinist.
If you have bookmarked three or more preachers scripture index webpages you might be a Calvinist.
If youve ever been banned from a Sunday School class for quoting scripture you might be a Calvinist.
If you have ever purposefully sung a different word in a hymn to conform to scripture you might be a Calvinist.
If your kids own more Bibles than televisions you might be a Calvinist.
If your children never ask you Where are we going? on Sunday morning, Sunday night, and Wednesday night you might be a Calvinist.
If youve ever read parts of The Bondage of the Will to children under ten and prayed that it would change their lives you might be a Calvinist.
If your children argue and you require them to listen to a Piper Sermon as punishment you might be a Calvinist.
If you visit spurgeon.org, desiringgod.org, and gty.org, more than once a day, yep you guessed it YOU, my dear friend, might just be a Calvinist!!
SOLI DEO GLORIA!
The way I see it, our will isn’t free at all until we are regenerated. Then, and only then, are we free to “choose” Christ. Be cause at that point there really isn’t any other choice.
We are unable to come to Christ unless we are first regenerated.
Define “regenerated”
Ephesians 2:1 says we are “DEAD in trespasses and sin”. Regeneration changes us from spiritually dead to spiritually alive. We must be spiritually alive before we can respond to Gods call on our life.
yes, it does.
Regeneration changes us from spiritually dead to spiritually alive.
That is not a definition. However, given that statement, then all men are capable of choosing Christ.
All men.
God chose who He will regenerate.
I'd be interested in hearing your justification for that statement.
Titus Chapter 2.
Utterly speechless and the amount of Truth that Osteen says are the same - mouth are open and nothing comes out. He just does it in lots more words and a goofy grin. :)
Titus 2 doesn’t say anything to the effect that God has regenerated all of mankind. It simply states that he has brought salvation to people of all walks of life, not all individuals.
“If you’re a Calvinist and you have only a basic familiarity with less than a quarter of this list, and are baffled by the rest....you just might be me.”
Agreed. Sounds more like a Reformed Baptist, than a full blown Covenant Theology Calvinist list to me...
Prove that God didn't mean that.
” That passage does not teach Zechariah and Elizabeth were righteous on their own strength. “
Not the point. The point is that there are people whom the Bible refers to as “righteous”. I referred to “righteous” people. You asked me to show you one. I did.
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“I believe in Divine Sovereignty, but I also believe in human responsibility. Calvinism is not rank fatalism.”
So you don’t believe that every single event in your life is predestined?
all men = all people
My point was that if a man is righteous, God made him that way. There are no righteous people outside of His grace. And once God makes a man righteous, He has promised to hold and keep Him forever. So the notion of God hardening a righteous man doesn’t work.
I believe God is firmly in control over ever minute detail of my life and yours. But He did not make us robots. He is sovereign, yet we do make choices and we are fully responsible. I don’t have time to go into this discussion this morning, so I will simply cut and paste something found elsewhere from a few years ago.
One of the perennial charges made against Reformed Christianity is that it’s “fatalistic.” The idea is that because Calvinists believe God actively works out everything that happens in the universe, we also believe that humans have no will or range of action. So you get comments like, “Well, prayer doesn’t mean anything if God predestined everything.” Or “you don’t believe in evangelism, because God’s just going to save people anyway.”
The problem these people have is that they aren’t arguing with Calvin, but with the Word of God. If their critique was true, they’d have disproved not just the great Frenchman and predestination. The Bible itself posits both human responsibility AND the total, active sovereignty of God.
“In Him we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will. . . — Ephesians 1:11”
God is working everything that happens in the Universe according to his own divine plan and will. But He’s chosen to work out this will through means. No Calvinist believes that God makes robots of us. The Westminster Confession itself says that God does no violence to our wills in predestination. Instead He works through our own actions — both good and evil ones.
So how does this work out practically? Take prayer as an example.
God has ordained that prayer changes things. When I pray, God really does hear and respond to it. But if God has a purpose to be accomplished, there WILL be prayer for it. God ordains both the ends, and the means to accomplish it. Far from fatalism, I have the comfort of knowing that my prayers fit perfectly into the gracious plan of God’s predestination.
Evangelism is the same. God has ordained the foolishness of preaching as his primary means of reaching the lost. So I can never say, “Ah, no need to evangelize. God’ll save them anyway.” No, He won’t. I’m responsible to preach both in season and out. But it is true that if God has predestined that someone will hear the Gospel, it WILL invariably be preached to them. Again, both means and ends.
Philippians has a great example of the two elements working together:
“. . .work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.” — Philippians 2:12,13
Paul is exhorting us as beings who have a will and the ability to choose our actions. At the same time, however, he shows us a second aspect of our reality — that the will we exert and the actions we peform are actually thanks to the working of God within us. And that He’s guiding them according to His “good pleasure.”
Fatalism accepts what the Bible says about God’s sovereignty without acknowledging the verses about human responsibility and free agency. Much of the rest of contemporary Christianity does just the opposite — swallowing free agency without facing up to the sovereignty verses. Both approaches leave one with a truncated Bible and a distorted image of God.
I recommend “Whate’er My God Ordains: A Biblical Study of God’s Control”
http://www.wordmp3.com/files/gs/ordains.htm
Selective interpretation.
Got it.
“All people, not all persons. If Jesus dies for all persons he failed miserably.”
That’s an utterly ridiculous thing to say! He died for all so that all could be saved - not that all will.
Did Adam’s sin not effect all “individuals”???
“Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.”
Do you see the one-to-one comparison there? “...the free gift came upon all men...” Not that all will be saved - but all can be saved. All! ALL!! ALL!!!
Now how about those goats???
I read that Alice Cooper was raised a Congregationalist and his father is/was a minister in that denomination. Are they calvinist?
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