Posted on 03/25/2011 9:19:12 AM PDT by Colofornian
Written by a local ex-Mormon Christian friend of mine: —
This is the Christ of Mormonism:
1. He lives as a humanoid god on a star near Kolob along with his father god, bound by the physical world; he does not transcend the material.
2. He is the brother of satan.
3. He had to earn his own salvation while he was on earth.
4. He offers his “grace” only to those who work hard enough.
5. He is not from everlasting to everlasting, but was created a finite time ago by his father god, who in turn was also created by his own father god, who in turn was created by his own father god, so on and so forth
6. He is not the greatest being possible.
7. He is finite.
8. His blood is not powerful enough to wipe away any sin.
9. He aided his father in creating earth by organizing already existing matter; he is not capable of creating things out of nothing.
10. He must submit to a moral law that existed before he did.
11. You can one day become just like him.
This is the Christ of the Bible:
1. He is a spirit being that transcends space and time.
2. He is the brother of no creature; He is God, from everlasting to everlasting. No one can claim kinship with Him except those He purchased for Himself on the cross. And He is not the same type of creature they are. He is not a creature, He is God.
3. Jesus is the Author of Salvation; to say that He needed to earn His salvation is absurdity.
4. He offers His sovereign grace to whomever He sovereignly chooses; we are all tainted by sin and vile in His holy eyes. Therefore, no one is more worthy than any other human being. Thus, His grace that He offers is given unconditionally. His grace is true grace, a beautiful gift.
5. He is from everlasting to everlasting. He was never created, and Has been in relationship with the Father and the Holy Spirit forever.
6. He is the greatest being possible, the Most High God. There is no one like Him and there is no one who will ever be anything like Him.
7. He is infinite, both in essence and in His divine perfections.
8. His blood is powerful enough to wipe away any sin, regardless of heinousness and duration. The only sin that cannot be forgive is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; and this is not because the blood of Christ is not powerful enough to wash it away, but because God has so sovereignly decreed that all persons who blaspheme the Holy Ghost should not receive forgiveness.
9. He created everything that exists out of nothing by the mere word of His mouth.
10. There is no external law that He submits to; He is the Author and the Source of the Law.
11. No one can ever come near to obtaining the glory and excellency of Christ.
***He was also an embezzler, a fraudster and a false prophet.***
Wonder if his ailed bank could have survived with a government Obamabailout? ;-D
Did you enjoy the videos you posted to yourself?
Um, I really can't come up with a counter argument to your point that is better than your own words...
I don’t have to pray over the Bible to know that adultery, murder, robbery, etc. are sins. Therefore I do not have to pray over the Book of Mormon to know that it’s a fake religion.
Warren Parrish, who had been an officer in the bank and had apostatized from the Church, made this statement: “I have listened to him [i.e. Smith] with feelings of no ordinary kind, when he declared that the AUDIBLE VOICE OF GOD, INSTRUCTED HIM TO ESTABLISH A BANKING-ANTI BANKING INSTITUTION, who like Aaron’s rod SHALL SWALLOW UP ALL OTHER BANKS (the Bank of Monroe excepted,) and grow and flourish and spread from the rivers to the ends of the earth, and survive when all others should be laid in ruins.” (Painesville Republican, February 22, 1838, as quoted in Conflict at Kirtland, page 297)
People who were convinced that Joseph had intended a swindle at the outset attacked him verbally and threatened him physically. This disruption forced Joseph to leave the city frequently....
In April 1837 Joseph went into hiding without seeing Emma before he left. (Mormon Enigma, pp. 62)
“We have come to tell you about the news that the Gospel of Jesus Christ has been restored after being taken from the earth because no one was worthy to follow Jesus’ Apostles until Joseph Smith became a prophet....
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Gosh GF I was just reading the Christian Bible...
and I read that there STill is “no one () worthy to follow Jesus”
Not even Joey Smith...
Even John the Baptist said he was not worthy enough...
“I baptize with water,” John replied, “but among you stands one you do not know. He is the one who comes after me, the thongs of whose sandals I AM NOT WORTHY to untie.” John 1:26, 27
So even John the Baptist was not worthy...
Well who was or is worthy ???
Only the LORD Jesus Christ who is God forever...
and He has not returned yet..
In Heaven we the Christians, the believers will sing...
“You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being.” Revelation 4:11
And I saw a mighty angel proclaiming in a loud voice, “Who is worthy to break the seals and open the scroll?” Revelation 5:2
But one of the twenty-four elders said to me, “Stop weeping! Look, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the heir to David’s throne, has won the victory. He is worthy to open the scroll and its seven seals.” Revelation 5:5
And they sang a new song: “You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased men for God from every tribe and language and people and nation. Revelation 5:9
In a loud voice they sang: “Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain, to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and praise!” Revelation 5:12
WOW
But getting back to John the Baptist and Joey Smith...
John the Baptist lived a more humble life than Joey Smith...
and while Smith wore the finest clothes tailored for him, and ate the finest foods, and drive or rode everywhere, John wore humble clothes or animal skins and ate whatever he could find and walked...
John’s clothes were made of camel’s hair, and he had a leather belt around his waist. His food was locusts and wild honey. Matthew 3:4
So Joey Smith did not measure up to John the Baptist in humility or worthiness or righteousness or as a prophet..
and Jesus said there has never been any as great as John the Baptist...
what did you go out to see? A man dressed in fine clothes? No, those who wear fine clothes are in kings’ palaces. Then what did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I tell you, and more than a prophet. This is the one about whom it is written: ‘I will send my messenger ahead of you, who will prepare your way before you.’ tell you the truth: Among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet he who is least in the kingdom of Heaven is greater than he. Matthew 11:8-11
So according to Joey Smith and his mormons, Joey Smith was not least in the kingdom...
therefore he was not greater than John the Baptist...
and if John the Batist was not worthy...
so too was Joey Smith even less worthy...
There are none righteous no not one...Romans 3:10
Well if nobody is righteous (worthy) to restore anything pertaining to our righteous God, what happened ???
Well nothing...
Nothing needed restoring EVER...
There is no need for dead dunking, polygamy or any other of mans lustful ideas...
The LORD Jesus Christ is worthy and capable of looking after His Word...
and when he said that the Church was not going anywhere, He told the truth...
and when the pervert child rapist and thief Joey Smith claimed to have “restored” something that Jesus was incapable of protecting, Smith lied...
Who ya gonna believe ???
Jesus who is God or the godless Joey Smith ???
So we can continue to ask the mormons...
“If you insist on claiming that Joey Smith “restored” the church, the Bride of Christ ..
Then tell us...
HOW DID JESUS “LOSE” HIS BRIDE ???”
Oh, I am so sorry post 168 and 169 are truthful but hurtful.
I’ve been telling fellow Freepers I’m an atheist (when it’s apropos to the thread) for as long as I’ve been here (not quite four years I think). And I’m far from the only one.
We’re nothing you’ve heard. We’re YOU.
Are you saying that I don’t have it in me to hav a testimony?
Galatians 4:16
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth?
And others have an exact OPPOSITE 'testimony'; where they know it is NOT true.
Now how do a person determine which is right?
Well Consuler; you've TOLD the jury this; now: can we see some EVIDENCE to back up what you so glibbly claim?
Or are YOU slandering folks by ACCUSING them of slander?
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