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In Christ Alone (Happy reformation day)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExnTlIM5QgE ^ | Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;

Posted on 10/31/2010 11:59:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7

In Christ Alone lyrics

Songwriters: Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;

In Christ alone my hope is found He is my light, my strength, my song This Cornerstone, this solid ground Firm through the fiercest drought and storm

What heights of love, what depths of peace When fears are stilled, when strivings cease My Comforter, my All in All Here in the love of Christ I stand

In Christ alone, who took on flesh Fullness of God in helpless Babe This gift of love and righteousness Scorned by the ones He came to save

?Til on that cross as Jesus died The wrath of God was satisfied For every sin on Him was laid Here in the death of Christ I live, I live

There in the ground His body lay Light of the world by darkness slain Then bursting forth in glorious Day Up from the grave He rose again

And as He stands in victory Sin?s curse has lost its grip on me For I am His and He is mine Bought with the precious blood of Christ


TOPICS: Prayer; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: reformation; savedbygrace
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To: metmom

Jesus gave All PRAISE, HONOR and GLORY to His FATHER.

The Vatican Empire: bow down, kiss the ring, wave to the subjects, etc.

Yep, so much for them following Jesus.


1,081 posted on 11/07/2010 9:23:56 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: annalex; RnMomof7; Dr. Eckleburg; metmom; Belteshazzar
The holy Scripture is useful. But ..

Saying God's Word is 'useful' is weak enough and then you add a but - as if there is something else MORE POWERFUL than God's Word. My suggestion - keep your 'but' out of it. READ!

# “For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” (Hebrews 4:12)

# “So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth; it shall not return to Me void, but it shall accomplish what I please, and it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it.” (Isaiah 55:11)

# “Is not My word like a fire?” says the Lord, “And like a hammer that breaks the rock in pieces?” (Jeremiah 23:29)

# “It is the SPIRIT who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life” (John 6:63)

There is NOTHING more powerful than God's Word and nothing comes near it! IT ALWAYS WAS and ALWAYS WILL BE.

The Bible is Holy Spirit inspired. The RCC's man made doctrine is FLESH. It is the SPIRIT who gives life; the flesh profits NOTHING. The RCC will burn one day and it's subjects will have NOTHING to stand on.
1,082 posted on 11/07/2010 10:29:31 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: presently no screen name

and AMEN!


1,083 posted on 11/07/2010 10:40:25 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Natural Law; RnMomof7
Luther spent a total of nine months in the Wartburg Castle, in relative luxury at the expense of his host,

God is Good, He always provides for His own.

Luther live another 24 years outside its protections before he died

He finished his race and as he found out - absent from the body, present with THE LORD!
1,084 posted on 11/07/2010 10:49:49 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: metmom; Dr. Eckleburg
What's the matter? You have something against private property? Money? People owning their own stuff?

Many Catholics are Socialists.

1,085 posted on 11/08/2010 2:59:39 AM PST by Gamecock ( Christianity is not the movement from vice to virtue, but from virtue to Grace.)
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To: metmom
What's the matter? You have something against private property? Money? People owning their own stuff?

Double standard for you guys. Martin Luther lived in greater luxury than the Pope does. He actually doesn't own anything. It's okay for a penniless monk to magically become a wealthy landowner (why not go back and research the times and see just how high up the rungs of society he ascended), isn't it? Now when I point out that double standard you guys get all upset.

Some day, you guys will realize that the Reformation was primarily secular - and it was about power and wealth, not about theology. Theology was the means to power and wealth for the Reformation. It was secondary, and only a tool to use.

1,086 posted on 11/08/2010 5:16:02 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: metmom
What? Didn’t you superior education teach you that? You need to get your money back.

Oh, we know very well where Luther got his money, don't we?

1,087 posted on 11/08/2010 5:16:57 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: Belteshazzar
Why don’t you look up facts for yourself? It is really easy to do, if one actually wants to learn the truth of the matter. On the other hand, if one just wants to cast baseless aspersions ...

Truth? If the truth were actually admitted by the children of the Reformation, they would shun it in horror. Martin Luther was seduced by wealth and luxury and that was his overriding impetus to continue what he had started. Only at the end of his life did he eventually realize - and admit - the evils that he let loose...

1,088 posted on 11/08/2010 5:19:47 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: Quix; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand

Would you give me a short version of what is it you are trying to say, without quixifications, please?

Declarative sentences with scriptural references, in regular font work best. Thx thx.


1,089 posted on 11/08/2010 5:22:02 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: presently no screen name
Luther spent a total of nine months in the Wartburg Castle, in relative luxury at the expense of his host,

God is Good, He always provides for His own.

Somebody else pimping the Prosperity Gospel?

Luther live another 24 years outside its protections before he died

He finished his race and as he found out - absent from the body, present with THE LORD!

Luther actually found out that being lord of a manor with servants and field hands taking care of him was really really nice and he liked it a lot.

1,090 posted on 11/08/2010 5:22:31 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: Gamecock
Many Catholics are Socialists.

So? Many non Catholics are Socialists. Most Catholics are not Socialists. Anything else from your corner?

1,091 posted on 11/08/2010 5:23:43 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: Quix; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand

The Apocalyptic visions are not covenants, and Catholic Christianity does conquer the world as prmised to Abraham. When Christ returns, Catholic Christianity will rule the Holy Land, as promised to Moses.


1,093 posted on 11/08/2010 5:29:24 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Belteshazzar

To take a false premise and build a perfectly logical house of cards upon it takes a specific German genuis, I think. The same talents were put to a better use in modern philosophy and natural sciences later.

There were minor sects everywhere and at all times, but none would have amounted to a hill of beans were it not for German appetite for sophistry and Henry VIII’s oversize libido.


1,094 posted on 11/08/2010 5:33:48 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Natural Law
Muslims were the main target of the Spanish Inquisition

To rid Spain of them was the strategic necessity, but the target was Jewish converts to Catholicism, who, it was suspected, sympathized with the Muslims.

1,095 posted on 11/08/2010 5:36:17 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: mas cerveza por favor; Natural Law
The Spanish Inquisition did not persecute public Jews or Muslims. It was only concerned with public, baptized Catholics who were secretly working to overthrow church and state

That is the understanding that I have as well, thanks.

1,096 posted on 11/08/2010 5:38:06 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Belteshazzar
what need is there of all the other verses?

Our belief is that the Holy Scripture is inerrant. That means that a single verse, taken in context is sufficient to form the basis of a dogma. Mt. 18:17-18 is a quote in context; the concept of the unique rule making role of the Church is supported by quite a few other verses, and no similar role is given the Scripture. If you have any scriptural argument to make, make it.

[25]... Christ also loved the church, and delivered himself up for it: [26] That he might sanctify it, cleansing it by the laver of water in the word of life: [27] That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle, or any; such thing; but that it should be holy, and without blemish (Eph 5)

Take heed to yourselves, and to the whole flock, wherein the Holy Ghost hath placed you bishops, to rule the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood (Acts 20:28)

Scripture, schmipture, who cares?

I am Catholic so I care.

1,097 posted on 11/08/2010 5:46:27 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex
Name one. You can correctly point to beliefs that are not directly taught by the scripture. But there is nothing that the Church teaches that contradicts the scripture. This stands tin stark contrast to the Protestant nonsense that is directly contradicted by plain scripture in its foundations.

Here is an interesting one that I recall off the bat.

1 Tim 4:1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. 3 They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth.

1,098 posted on 11/08/2010 6:16:03 AM PST by bkaycee
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To: MarkBsnr
Some day, you guys will realize that the Reformation was primarily secular - and it was about power and wealth, not about theology. Theology was the means to power and wealth for the Reformation. It was secondary, and only a tool to use.

So, the revolt against Tetzel building St. Peter's Basilica off the backs of peaseants by selling them licenses to sin was just a pretext? Yes, I see it now.

Obviously then Luther standing alone before Rome's demand to recant, (Diet of Worms) just planning his life of wealth.

"Unless I am convinced by the testimony of the Scriptures or by clear reason (for I do not trust either in the pope or in councils alone, since it is well known that they have often erred and contradicted themselves), I am bound by the Scriptures I have quoted and my conscience is captive to the Word of God. I cannot and will not recant anything, since it is neither safe nor right to go against conscience. May God help me. Amen"

1,099 posted on 11/08/2010 6:34:00 AM PST by bkaycee
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To: annalex

That’s NOT even close to the coming reality.


1,100 posted on 11/08/2010 6:48:21 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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