Posted on 10/26/2010 5:17:20 AM PDT by Colofornian
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...Joseph Smith warned of the consequences when we fail to use the temples available to us: “Those Saints who neglect [temple work] in behalf of their deceased relatives, do it at the peril of their own salvation.”
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A key function of temples is to perform ordinance work for our deceased ancestors. When we think of temple ordinances and the necessity to do them perfectly, without error...
“… For their salvation is necessary and essential to our salvation...they without us cannot be made perfect—neither can we without our dead be made perfect” (D&C 128:5, 15;...).
Consider the...vision of President Joseph F. Smith...:
“Thus was the gospel preached to those who had died in their sins...having rejected the prophets.
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The Lord revealed through... Joseph: “All covenants, contracts, bonds, obligations, oaths, vows, performances, connections, associations, or expectations, that are not made and entered into and sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, of him who is anointed, both as well for time and for all eternity, … through the medium of mine anointed, whom I have appointed on the earth to hold this power … are of no efficacy, virtue, or force in and after the resurrection from the dead; for all contracts that are not made unto this end have an end when men are dead” (D&C 132:7).
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...One of the great privileges we have is the wearing of the garment...
...The garment, … when properly worn, will serve as a protection against temptation and evil.
“It is expected that members will wear the garment both night and day...Members should not adjust the garment or wear it contrary to instructions in order to accommodate different styles of clothing...The garment should not be removed for activities which might reasonably be done with the garment worn beneath the clothing...
(Excerpt) Read more at new.lds.org ...
Bah!
Most any fool off the street can make it into the lowest of the MORMON heavens.
Well...it would be very unusual for MORMONs to use ANY Mormon 'scripture' as a basis for the things they ritualistically perform in their holy temples!
That's ALL???
I guess you DON'T have a TR then!
Stepford Mormon
Until a cup a water comes flying her way...
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Aof #3:
We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved,
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Seems like Sandy added to the words of Joey Smith's "articles of faith"
Isnt that a big NONO ???
Isnt that an anti mormon activity ???
Isnt that an unmormon-temple-recommend sin ???
Thank you oh so very much for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ, and thank you for all those quotes!
Quotes?
What QUOTES???
All we MORMONs see is regurgitated propaganda!
--MormonDube(Now if WE would post those same words; they'd be as PURE as the driven snow!)
You forgot the part about after “all you can do”.
Joseph Smith was a lying peepstone conman. And you are still being conned by the service the liar gave to satan in exchange for the things of this world which meant more to Joseph Smith than his immortal soul, a soul which stands condemned by his own rejection of The Word made flesh Who dwelt among us. The difference between monotheism and polytheism is not a doctrinal difference, it is fundamental belief difference much like the great gulf fixed which Jesus spoke of regarding the rich man and Lazarus. You are chosing to which side you will be assigned, hallmarked by heresies and deceit as taught by Smith et al.
Wow! Talk about misleading statements.
To be "technically correct" here, Logo has to indirectly appeal to Mormon doctrines like D&C 93:29,33...where no spirit (whether you're talking about demons, gods, or men) has ever been created. They always have been. All eternally self-existent.
IOW, AMPU, all Logophile is saying here is that you or I actually are not created beings, either!!!! You see, even before any Mormon pre-existent birth, D&C 93:29,33 says you were a spirit and/or intelligence. You have always existed; therefore, you were never created. Therefore, what is true of you applies to the Mormon gods as well!
And so, on this technicality, Logophile is able to "technically" frame a true statement. But you know, you can say something that is "true" in a technical way, but yet still be misleading.
Now I don't know if Logophile's intent was to mislead...I don't know his inner heart...all I know is that he didn't offer up the "rest of the story."
So allow me to do that:
AMPU, instead of what you said, if you had said (revisions in italics):
1. Mormonism obfuscates about God as a man
2. Mormonism lies about Christ as a saved being
3. Mormonism covers up its belief about the Holy Spirit being labeled a "man"
4. Mormonism lies that there are multiple gods
Then from my vantage point of what Mormon leaders have gone on record as claiming, Logo has no basis for objecting.
How so?
1. We know Gordon B. Hinckley obfuscated about the Snow couplet on a couple of interview occasions.
2. We know Bruce McConkie (and Millet) have taught that Jesus was a "saved being." (Lds "apostle" McConkie, Doctrinal New Testament Commentary, Vol. 3, p 257)
3. We know Mormons are not up front in referencing the Holy Ghost as a mere "man"...so they tuck that away and hide it. [See Encyclopedia of Mormonism quote below]
4. And, AMPU, you've been hitting the "gods" aspect right on.
As for why I labeled Logo's statements as misleading, I think readers would find the following Mormon statements to be quite eye-opening in that they clearly teach how they regard god and man to be:
...of the SAME nature and race.
...(IOW, when you study anthropology, you are studying God per Mormonism).
Holy Ghost:
“The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches that the Holy Ghost is a spirit man, a spirit son of God the Father. It is fundamental Church doctrine that God is the Father of the spirits of all men and women, that Jesus is literally God's Son both in the spirit and in the flesh, and that the Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit separate and distinct from both the Father and the Son.” (Encyclopedia of Mormonism 2:649)
Jesus Christ:
“Latter-day Saints are monophysite in their Christology, that is, they believe Christ has only one nature, which is simultaneously both human and divine. This is possible because the human and the divine are not mutually exclusive categories in LDS thought, as in the duophysite Christology of much orthodoxy” (Encyclopedia of Mormonism, 1:401)
Christ attained Godhood while yet in the pre-existence...” (Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 1966, p. 323)
Jesus became a God and reached His great state of understanding through consistent effort and continous obedience to all the Gospel truths and universal laws” (Milton R. Hunter, The Gospel Through the Ages, p. 51)
God the Father:
“God and man are of the same race, differing only in their degrees of advancement” (Lds “apostle” John A. Widtsoe, Rational Theology, 1915, p. 61)
”According to revelation, however, he is a personal Being, a holy and exalted Man, a glorified, resurrected Personage having a tangible body of flesh and bones, an anthropomorphic Entity, the personal Father of the spirits of all men.” (Bruce R. Mconkie, Mormon Doctrine, 1966, p. 250)
”The doctrine that God was once a man and has progressed to become a God is unique to this Church.” (Teachings of the Presidents of the Church: Brigham Young, 1997, p. 34)
”We offend again in our doctrine that men are of the same race with the divine personages we call Gods. Great stress is laid upon the idea that we believe that 'as man is, God once was, and as God now is, man may become.' The world usually shouts 'blasphemy' and 'sacrilege' at one when he talks of such a possibility” (B.H. Roberts, 1992, Defense of The Faith and The Saints 2:570)
It's not unusual for Mormon Christians.
But Christians understand why mormon's do it.............
Your post is puzzling. What is crazy (or deceptive) about citing the Book of Mormon as a source of Mormon doctrine?
Are you a lawyer?
No, I am an engineer.
Near enough...
Watch your tongue . . . er . . . fingers.
ROFLOL!!
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