Posted on 10/15/2010 5:39:02 PM PDT by delacoert
And add to that, their own founding ‘prophet’ changed the fundamental assertions regarding God! I posted the evidence in an earlier post, where Smith changed the meaning in his own ‘book of nephi’ when the 1837 edition of the Book of Mormon was being prepared. The Mormons who visit these threads ahte it when you post the evidence from their own sources.
You nailed it in one!
Are you a Roman Catholic because you like the title?
Back in post #584 I quoted the ‘prior to 1837’ edition then the after 1837 edition. If the Momron religion is the perfect restored Christianity, why would Smith need to fundamentally change the way his book of nephi portrays God?
You're right.
If Mormons want an honest relationship with Christ, they need to be honest with themselves first. They need to explore and find the truth. IF they can not, then they are afraid to let go of a lie and that lie separates them from God.
Where on my maps...are these cities?
Were these cities in the Bible?
No, these cities were in the Book of Mormon. Somewhere in the Americas. If you ask me where exactly, I’ll say I don’t know, because I don’t.
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Well lets see what the relationship between the LORD Jesus Christ and Mary and Martha and Mary Magdalene really was...
Mary and Martha had reason to love the LORD Jesus Christ because Jesus had raised their beloved brother Lazarus from the dead...
Wouldnt you love someone who raised your loved one from the dead ???
Now lets look at Mary Magdalene...
After this, Jesus traveled about from one town and village to another, preaching and announcing the Good News about the Kingdom of God. He took his twelve disciples with him, along with some women who had been cured of evil spirits and diseases. Among them were Mary Magdalene, from whom he had cast out seven demons; Joanna the wife of Cuza, the manager of Herod's household; Susanna; and many others. These women were helping to support them out of their own means.
(Then I guess all mormon female tithe payers are married to Joey Smith and Tommy Munson)
Now one of the Pharisees invited Jesus to have dinner with him, so he went to the Pharisee's house and reclined at the table.
When a woman who had lived a sinful life in that town learned that Jesus was eating at the Pharisee's house, she brought an alabaster jar of perfume, and as she stood behind him at his feet weeping, she began to wet his feet with her tears. Then she wiped them with her hair, kissed them and poured perfume on them.
When the Pharisee who had invited him saw this, he said to himself, "If this man were a prophet, he would know who is touching him and what kind of woman she is--that she is a sinner."
Jesus answered him, "Simon, I have something to tell you."
"Tell me, teacher," he said.
"Two men owed money to a certain moneylender. One owed him five hundred denarii, and the other fifty. Neither of them had the money to pay him back, so he canceled the debts of both. Now which of them will love him more?"
Simon replied, "I suppose the one who had the bigger debt canceled."
"You have judged correctly," Jesus said.
Then he turned toward the woman and said to Simon, "Do you see this woman? I came into your house. You did not give me any water for my feet, but she wet my feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair. You did not give me a kiss, but this woman, from the time I entered, has not stopped kissing my feet. You did not put oil on my head, but she has poured perfume on my feet. Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven--for she loved much. But he who has been forgiven little loves little."
Then Jesus said to her, "Your sins are forgiven."
The other guests began to say among themselves, "Who is this who even forgives sins?"
Jesus said to the woman, "Your faith and repentance has saved you; go in peace." Luke 7:36-50
Only a foul mind would get a sexual relationship out of an account of Christian salvation and worship of the LORD Jesus Christ..
Yes this passage might just have mormonism stamped on it...
Simon the mormon..
While Christians love the LORD Jesus Chrsit and weep over His forgiveness of our sins and worship Him...
Mormons not only refuse to worship Him...they are indifferent to Him and do not honor Him or respect Him..
BTW I have the honor of playing the part of Mary Magdalene in our Christmas program at church this year..
Last year I was the "old" Mary the mother of Jesus at the Cross..This year I'm one who was forgiven much and so she loved much...
I never lived the life that Mary Magdalene lived but I am not better or gooder than she was...
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, Romans 3:23
Norm -
Where is the evidence of the destruction you’ve described? I’ve searched geological studies - there there are no evidence of volcanic eruptions or earthquakes of the magnitude suggested here during that time frame (AD30-33). There is no history of any such events recorded by the mayans or other amerindian peoples during that time frame either.
I mean on a historical/archeology level?
Seems to me....with the Billions of $$$ that LDS, Inc has...they'd be throwing money everywhere...to find evidence of these cities...To PROVE once and for all...to the world that the BOM is true.
Why aren't they?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV1nNRBb7GE&feature=related
Why are they not spending the money to find what remains these places? ... Because even if they do not nor have ever existed physically, the cult mind insists on believing the places exist/existed somehow because to doubt they ever existed would be the same as denying the false prophet, Joseph Smith. ... But they will not admit that to you until they get out of the cult.
In Search of Book of Mormon Geography | |
The Book of Mormon is supposed to be a history of real people living in a real place. For the first 150 years of Mormonism's existence, everyone thought it was a story about a people who left the Middle East and came to South or Central America, and who fought wars clear up into New York state where their history was hidden in a hillside, inscribed on gold plates. Joseph Smith, in 1830, translated those plates, he said, by "the gift and power of God," into 1611 English from "Reformed Egyptian Hieroglyphics." Or so the story goes. However, one needs to look no further than New York, Pennsylvania, and Ohio to find the setting of the Book of Mormon. Whoever pieced the Book of Mormon together had a land in mind which was very similar to the Northeast United States and Southeast Canada. My friend, the late Vernal Holley, originally published these maps in his book Book of Mormon Authorship: A Closer Look in the early 1980s. I was fascinated with them then and remain so today. Basically, the two maps compare a "proposed map" constructed by Vernal from the internal descriptions of the Book of Mormon and comments, over the years by Latter-day Saint scholars, with a map showing actual place names on maps of the area around Palmyra, New York, where to the Book of Mormon originally was published. Vernal gave me permission to put the whole book on line. I just need the time to do that. In the meantime I hope you enjoy this. |
The first map is the "proposed map," constructed from internal comparisons in the Book of Mormon. Throughout the Book of Mormon we read of such features as "The Narrow Neck of Land" which was a days and a half's journey (roughly 30 miles) separating two great seas. We read much of the Hill Onidah, the Hill Ramah, and the city of the City of Angolaall place names in the land of Joseph Smith's youth. We read, in the Book of Mormon of the Land of Desolation named for a warrior named Teancum who helped General Moroni fight in the Land of Desolation. In Smith's era, an Indian Chief named Tecumseh fought and died near the narrow neck of land helping the British in the War of 1812. Today the Canadian city Techumseh (near the narrow neck of land) is named after him. We see the Book of Mormon city Kishkumen located near an area named, on modern maps, as Kiskiminetas. There are more than two dozen Book of Mormon names that are the same as or nearly the same as modern geographical locations. See below |
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Below is the modern Map of the area of Smith's Youth | |
Book of Mormon place names compared to actual Northeast US/Southeast Canada place names Canadian locations are marked with an asterisk and appear in the Book of Mormon as lying in "The Land Northward" |
ACTUAL PLACE NAMES *Agathe, Saint Alma Angola Antrim Antioch Boaz Jerusalem Monroe Noah Lakes |
BOOK OF MORMON PLACE NAMES Ogath Alma, Avlley of Angola Antum Anti-Anti Boaz Jerusalem Moroni Noah, Land of |
Copyright 1989, 1992 by Vernal Holley Used by permission. |
Then; logically; JERUSALEM should have been LEVELED for SHEDDING the BLOOD of JESUS; the Last and Greatest PROPHET: right?
It's SCRIPTURE; ain't it??
I guess a apology would be outside expectations, just as an explanation would be....
I guess you admit that SOME of it is NOT b.s.!
Would you PLEASE differentiate between the GOOD stuff and the BAD stuff so LURKERS will no longer be confused of what is authentic??
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