What Mormon Missionaries WON'T Tell You

Contender Ministries [False Religions] ^ | unknown | anonymous

[delacoert]

Most of us have had a Mormon Missionary knock at our door.  If you have ever invited them in and listened to a presentation of their beliefs, you probably found most but not all of what they said very similar to those beliefs held by Christians.  However, while trying to convince you that your Church is wrong and the Mormon Church is right, there are several points they intentionally leave out.  Below is a list of Mormon beliefs the missionaries will be reluctant to tell you about:

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that the God they worship was not always God.

"We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity.  I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see."  (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 345)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that they believe Jesus Christ is the spirit brother of Satan:

"The appointment of Jesus to be the Savior of the world was contested by one of the other sons of God.  He was called Lucifer, son of the morning.  Haughty, ambitious, and covetous of power and glory, this spirit-brother of Jesus desperately tried to become the Savior of mankind."  (Milton R. Hunter, Gospel Through the Ages, pg.15)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that, according to Mormonism, Jesus Christ was a polygamist.

"I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he begat children."  (Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses 2:210)

 

The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based upon polygamy, according to the testimony of the philosophers who rose in that age.  A belief in the doctrine of a plurality of wives caused the persecution of Jesus and his followers.  We might almost think they were 'Mormons'" (Jedediah M. Grant, Journal of Discourses, 1:346)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that for at least half a century church leaders were teaching that Adam was really God and the only God with whom we have to do.

"Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner!  When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him.  He helped to make and organize this world.  He is Michael, the Archangel, the Ancient of Days! about whom holy men have written and spoken--He is our Father, and our God, and the only God with whom we have to do."  (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 1:50)

 

"I have learned by experience that there is but one God that pertains to this people and he is the god that pertains to this earth--The first man.  That first man sent his own son to redeem the world..."(Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 4:1)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that Brigham Young, who held the office of President of the Mormon church longer than any other man, taught that men must practice polygamy in order to become Gods.

"The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy."  (Journal of Discourses 11:269)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that the book of Mormon fails to contain any Mormon doctrine

Many portions of this Mormon Scripture even contradicts Mormon theology.

 

They will be reluctant to tell you about their secret temple ceremonies which, until April 1990, portrayed Christian ministers as hirelings of Satan.  Nor will they tell you about the sacred underwear they are wearing which, they believe, actually protects them.

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that Mormon leaders have taught that Jesus was conceived by way of a sexual relationship between God and Mary.

"..how are children begotten?  I answer just as Jesus Christ was begotten of his father.  The difference between Jesus Christ and other men is this:  Our fathers in the flesh are mortal men, who are subject unto death: but the Father of Jesus Christ in the flesh is the god of Heaven" (Joseph F. Smith, Family Home Evening Manual, 1972, pg. 125)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that they believe the bible has been corrupted throughout the centuries and cannot be trusted fully by itself.

"I believe the Bible as it read when it came from the pen of the original writers.  Ignorant translators, careless transcribers, or designing and corrupt priests have committed many errors." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph smith, pg.327)

"But the Bible has been robbed of its plainness; many sacred books having been lost, others rejected by the Romish Church, and what few we have left, were copied and recopied so many times, that it is admitted that almost every verse has been corrupted and mutilated to that degree that any two of them read alike." (Orson Pratt, The Seer, pg.213)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covenants, which they claim to be both sacred and without error, contradict each other many times.

For example, in the Book of Mormon, God called David and Solomon's act of polygamy an abomination, whereas in the Doctrine and Covenants He claims to justify it.  Jacob 2:24 in the Book of Mormon says, "Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord."  Section 132:1 in the Doctrine and Covenants, however, states: "Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you my servant Joseph, that inasmuch as you have inquired of my hand to know and understand wherein I, the Lord, justified my servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as also Moses, David and Solomon, my servants, as touching the principle and doctrine of their having many wives and concubines."

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that they use Christian terms with Mormon meanings.

For example, a Mormon would probably agree with you that a person must be born again.  To the Mormon, however, "born again" is a process which begins with water baptism.  Another example are the words "salvation" and exaltation," which are synonymous in the Christian's mind.  However, general salvation to the Mormon merely means the resurrection which everyone in the world will receive at death.  Exaltation, or individual salvation, is the reward earned by the Mormon by following the laws of the Moron church.  "Eternal Life" to the Mormon means Godhood.  Regarding the word "scriptures," the Christian thinks of the Holy Bible while the Mormon could be thinking of not only the Bible but the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price as well.

 

They won't want to tell you that in order to gain entrance into the highest form of Mormon heaven, the Celestial kingdom, you must accept Joseph Smith, Jr. as a prophet of god.  Faith in Jesus alone, Mormonism teaches, will force you to spend eternity in a lower form of heaven.

 

Tenth LDS President Joseph Fielding Smith stated in his book, doctrines of Salvation, that there is "No salvation without accepting Joseph Smith.  The word "salvation," used in this context, must really mean "exaltation" because former Mormon apostle Bruce R. McConkie stated in his book Mormon Doctrine that general salvation is given to everyone regardless of belief.  Personal salvation or exaltation to the highest form of Mormon heaven comes only by accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of god and by following the laws of the LDS church.

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that their founder, Joseph Smith, Jr., made many false prophecies which, according to the Bible, would classify him as a false prophet rather than a true prophet of God.

 

For instance, in 1835 Smith claimed that the Lord would again come in just 56 years.  We would gather from this "prophecy" that Jesus Christ would again come to earth on or before 1891; no doubt Joseph Smith was incorrect (History of the church 2:182).  In 1832 Joseph Smith claimed he had a revelation concerning the building of a temple in Independence, Missouri.  According to section 84, verses 4 and 5, of the Doctrine and Covenants, he stated this "temple shall be reared in this generation.  For verily this generation shall not pass away until an house shall be built unto the Lord, and a cloud shall rest upon it..."  to this day the spot consecrated by Smith fails to be the sight of a great temple, but instead is covered with a well-kept lawn.  In fact, the Mormon church does not even own the land.

 

[Saundra Duffy]

You don't believe that I was with YWAM as a missionary. That's funny. If I didn't think you'd harass my sons, I'd give you their contact information. You think I made all that up about YWAM? How about the time in Belize when I had a bot-fly larvae growing under my skin? How about the time my Mom, my son and I were threatened by Guatemalan “soldiers” while on our way to Tekal? How about the time my son developed giardia?

Why is it so important to you to discredit me? Bizarre.

[Saundra Duffy]

“how do you KNOW it was the Holy Ghost and not a demon??”

Because Jesus Christ is my Witness. When Jesus was on the earth, he was accused of having a demon, too. Remember? I guess that’s why He cautioned us not to judge each other.

You are sure you are right - that I am going to hell and all Mormons are going to hell. You are absolutely certain beyond a shadow of a doubt. Now THAT’s really frightening - for you, not me.

[SZonian]

"Why is it so important to you to discredit me? Bizarre."

I ask myself the same question about certain FReepers sometimes...

[Normandy]

Quite honestly it doesn’t bother me what someone thinks of my religious beliefs — I know where I put my trust, and that is sufficient for me.

I think it is a shame though that opponents of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints would spend so much time and effort trying to convince anyone who will listen to them that LDS don’t believe in Jesus Christ and rely on him for their salvation. That’s plain false.

What these opponents say, however, won’t affect the Lord’s work — it’s not possible to thwart his purposes.

What is affected is the spiritual welfare of those who perpetrate such attacks, and I do feel sorry for those who are involved in the meanness and mockery which reflect nothing of the Spirit of Christ. Why use such antics should be used against people who are honestly striving to follow Jesus?

Paul says the fruit of the spirit is “love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance” (Galatians 5:22-23) Those fruits are not in evidence in these spiteful attacks.

I love the enemies of my faith and want the best for them, but I fear those involved in this extreme antagonism are going to reap what they sow. “For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again” (Matt. 7:2)

Normandy

[reaganaut]

a murmurer (now that smarted),

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Now, now, now...we’ve met, you are NOT a murmurer! You speak very clearly! ;)

And I love you, T.

[reaganaut]

Thanks for proving you never ‘got it’.

Oy vey!

[reaganaut]

Lord of what? The AoF are just the ‘milk’ of Mormon doctrine, the ‘meat’ comes later. It is disingenuous to say that it is all that the LDS believe.

[reaganaut]

I was told that Mormons were evil and to not talk to them.

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Good advice, some you probably should have taken.

[reaganaut]

OUCH! (and accurate).

[reaganaut]

For the last time, this isn’t a ‘game’.

Jesus is Lord, so why do you just accept Him and leave that God forsaken cult?

[reaganaut]

You are right in supposing that your Jesus is different from my Jesus. My Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God, who loves me and accepts me; He suffered and died to save me from my sins. Apparently, your Jesus is different; your Jesus condemns me.

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NOW, you are paying attention, Sandy, but not quite

Our Jesus condemns MORMONISM, he loves Mormons but it grieves Him to see them blaspheming Him. C’mon Sandy repent and come to the REAL Christ, eternally God, who died on the cross to pay for your sins, so you don’t have to ‘work for it’.

[reaganaut]

Past my bedtime placemarker.

[Elsie]

And the LDS have very different views of what Jesus saves them from, where it took place and who He is.

HMMmm...

Perhaps I need to work up a tagline for my alter ego...

[Elsie]

C’mon Sandy, give us some of these ‘lies’.

She might be saving her illusions for one last blast; as she has ticked off JR severely,and he's on her case!

[Elsie]

C’mon Sandy, give us some of these ‘lies’.

She might be saving her illusions for one last blast; as she has ticked off JR severely,and he's on her case!

[Elsie]

The leader said “We will pray about it.” I was SHOCKED!! What's to pray about?

And yet, today, you MORMONs advise folks to do EXACTLY that!

Pray about whether the BoM is true or not.

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Ya think there MIGHT be just a wee bit of a DISCONNECT in thinking here?

[Pan_Yans Wife]

You wrote: "What's to pray about?"

Oh ye of little faith...

Read Luke 18

Luke 18

The Parable of the Persistent Widow

1Then Jesus told his disciples a parable to show them that they should always pray and not give up. 2He said: "In a certain town there was a judge who neither feared God nor cared about men. 3And there was a widow in that town who kept coming to him with the plea, 'Grant me justice against my adversary.'

4"For some time he refused. But finally he said to himself, 'Even though I don't fear God or care about men, 5yet because this widow keeps bothering me, I will see that she gets justice, so that she won't eventually wear me out with her coming!'"

6And the Lord said, "Listen to what the unjust judge says. 7And will not God bring about justice for his chosen ones, who cry out to him day and night? Will he keep putting them off? 8I tell you, he will see that they get justice, and quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?"

[Elsie]

Don’t forget that Pratt said he was a ‘sinner’ too. OY Vey!

 

 

Might as well; since it was common knowledge...

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orson_Pratt

 

 

 

"Here was my husband, gray headed, taking to his bed young girls in mockery of marriage.

Of course there could be no joy for him in such an intercourse except for the indulgence of his fanaticism and of something else, perhaps, which I hesitate to mention."

[Elsie]

Because Jesus Christ is my Witness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj_quZru76A

[Elsie]

 

I think it is a shame though that opponents of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints would spend so much time and effort trying to convince anyone who will listen to them that LDS don’t believe in Jesus Christ and rely on him for their salvation. That’s plain false.

 

Norm, Norm, Norm...  (I'm helping Sandy here) don't you REALIZE that we can READ???

 

The Articles of Faith
of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

 

 

1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
   
2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
   
3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
   
4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
   
5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
   
6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
   
7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
   
8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
   
9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
   
10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
    
11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
    
12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
    
13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith