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What Mormon Missionaries WON'T Tell You
Contender Ministries [False Religions] ^ | unknown | anonymous

Posted on 10/15/2010 5:39:02 PM PDT by delacoert

Most of us have had a Mormon Missionary knock at our door.  If you have ever invited them in and listened to a presentation of their beliefs, you probably found most but not all of what they said very similar to those beliefs held by Christians.  However, while trying to convince you that your Church is wrong and the Mormon Church is right, there are several points they intentionally leave out.  Below is a list of Mormon beliefs the missionaries will be reluctant to tell you about:

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that the God they worship was not always God.

"We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity.  I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see."  (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 345)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that they believe Jesus Christ is the spirit brother of Satan:

"The appointment of Jesus to be the Savior of the world was contested by one of the other sons of God.  He was called Lucifer, son of the morning.  Haughty, ambitious, and covetous of power and glory, this spirit-brother of Jesus desperately tried to become the Savior of mankind."  (Milton R. Hunter, Gospel Through the Ages, pg.15)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that, according to Mormonism, Jesus Christ was a polygamist.

"I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he begat children."  (Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses 2:210)

 

The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based upon polygamy, according to the testimony of the philosophers who rose in that age.  A belief in the doctrine of a plurality of wives caused the persecution of Jesus and his followers.  We might almost think they were 'Mormons'" (Jedediah M. Grant, Journal of Discourses, 1:346)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that for at least half a century church leaders were teaching that Adam was really God and the only God with whom we have to do.

"Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner!  When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him.  He helped to make and organize this world.  He is Michael, the Archangel, the Ancient of Days! about whom holy men have written and spoken--He is our Father, and our God, and the only God with whom we have to do."  (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 1:50)

 

"I have learned by experience that there is but one God that pertains to this people and he is the god that pertains to this earth--The first man.  That first man sent his own son to redeem the world..."(Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 4:1)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that Brigham Young, who held the office of President of the Mormon church longer than any other man, taught that men must practice polygamy in order to become Gods.

"The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy."  (Journal of Discourses 11:269)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that the book of Mormon fails to contain any Mormon doctrine

Many portions of this Mormon Scripture even contradicts Mormon theology.

 

They will be reluctant to tell you about their secret temple ceremonies which, until April 1990, portrayed Christian ministers as hirelings of Satan.  Nor will they tell you about the sacred underwear they are wearing which, they believe, actually protects them.

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that Mormon leaders have taught that Jesus was conceived by way of a sexual relationship between God and Mary.

"..how are children begotten?  I answer just as Jesus Christ was begotten of his father.  The difference between Jesus Christ and other men is this:  Our fathers in the flesh are mortal men, who are subject unto death: but the Father of Jesus Christ in the flesh is the god of Heaven" (Joseph F. Smith, Family Home Evening Manual, 1972, pg. 125)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that they believe the bible has been corrupted throughout the centuries and cannot be trusted fully by itself.

"I believe the Bible as it read when it came from the pen of the original writers.  Ignorant translators, careless transcribers, or designing and corrupt priests have committed many errors." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph smith, pg.327)

"But the Bible has been robbed of its plainness; many sacred books having been lost, others rejected by the Romish Church, and what few we have left, were copied and recopied so many times, that it is admitted that almost every verse has been corrupted and mutilated to that degree that any two of them read alike." (Orson Pratt, The Seer, pg.213)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covenants, which they claim to be both sacred and without error, contradict each other many times.

For example, in the Book of Mormon, God called David and Solomon's act of polygamy an abomination, whereas in the Doctrine and Covenants He claims to justify it.  Jacob 2:24 in the Book of Mormon says, "Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord."  Section 132:1 in the Doctrine and Covenants, however, states: "Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you my servant Joseph, that inasmuch as you have inquired of my hand to know and understand wherein I, the Lord, justified my servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as also Moses, David and Solomon, my servants, as touching the principle and doctrine of their having many wives and concubines."

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that they use Christian terms with Mormon meanings.

For example, a Mormon would probably agree with you that a person must be born again.  To the Mormon, however, "born again" is a process which begins with water baptism.  Another example are the words "salvation" and exaltation," which are synonymous in the Christian's mind.  However, general salvation to the Mormon merely means the resurrection which everyone in the world will receive at death.  Exaltation, or individual salvation, is the reward earned by the Mormon by following the laws of the Moron church.  "Eternal Life" to the Mormon means Godhood.  Regarding the word "scriptures," the Christian thinks of the Holy Bible while the Mormon could be thinking of not only the Bible but the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price as well.

 

They won't want to tell you that in order to gain entrance into the highest form of Mormon heaven, the Celestial kingdom, you must accept Joseph Smith, Jr. as a prophet of god.  Faith in Jesus alone, Mormonism teaches, will force you to spend eternity in a lower form of heaven.

 

Tenth LDS President Joseph Fielding Smith stated in his book, doctrines of Salvation, that there is "No salvation without accepting Joseph Smith.  The word "salvation," used in this context, must really mean "exaltation" because former Mormon apostle Bruce R. McConkie stated in his book Mormon Doctrine that general salvation is given to everyone regardless of belief.  Personal salvation or exaltation to the highest form of Mormon heaven comes only by accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of god and by following the laws of the LDS church.

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that their founder, Joseph Smith, Jr., made many false prophecies which, according to the Bible, would classify him as a false prophet rather than a true prophet of God.

 

For instance, in 1835 Smith claimed that the Lord would again come in just 56 years.  We would gather from this "prophecy" that Jesus Christ would again come to earth on or before 1891; no doubt Joseph Smith was incorrect (History of the church 2:182).  In 1832 Joseph Smith claimed he had a revelation concerning the building of a temple in Independence, Missouri.  According to section 84, verses 4 and 5, of the Doctrine and Covenants, he stated this "temple shall be reared in this generation.  For verily this generation shall not pass away until an house shall be built unto the Lord, and a cloud shall rest upon it..."  to this day the spot consecrated by Smith fails to be the sight of a great temple, but instead is covered with a well-kept lawn.  In fact, the Mormon church does not even own the land.

 


TOPICS: Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: apostasy; blasphemy; falsereligion; inman; josephsmith; lds; mormonism; unscriptural
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To: Colofornian

Canonization: not in Scripture

Lord’s Table: turning the bread and wine into the ACTUAL BODY AND BLOOD of Christ...not in Scripture.

Purgatory: not in Scripture

Not of your answers prove any of it is actually supported by scripture. Which is good...because you cannot as it isn’t in there.


241 posted on 10/16/2010 11:26:34 AM PDT by sigzero
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To: Graybeard58

Praise God! I have a couple of friends who are very steeped in that particular sin. It is hard to watch them when they don’t want help even though they need it.


242 posted on 10/16/2010 11:29:07 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: MadRepublican; Religion Moderator

Are you sure you signed in under the correct screen name? Your posts, (what there are of them) are VERY familiar.


243 posted on 10/16/2010 11:43:53 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: reaganaut; 2ndDivisionVet; BigSkyFreeper; Paragon Defender

[reaganaut --] 

That a time will come when you will either be Mormon or die,.. They do believe that Mormonism will one day rule the planet, probably shortly after they get a Mormon is the White House (White Horse prophecy).
 

 

[Stourme contemplates]

I think this kind of paranoia speaks for itself.

The reality is Mormons teach of loving your neighbor no matter who they are. A message by Thomas S. Monson, now President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

The post I quoted above is the glass that can be used with which to view the accuracy of all Mormon haters. They lie. Is it Jesus that inspires such hate?

Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were great men. And if what they helped restore was not of God it would have died with them.

 


244 posted on 10/16/2010 11:46:46 AM PDT by Stourme
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To: Stourme
"Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were great men. And if what they helped restore was not of God it would have died with them."

HAH! Satan has been around a long time. Why would you think he would stop his work with the first generation or two or his heresies rife in Mormonism? You are proof he's still succeeding!

245 posted on 10/16/2010 11:54:08 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Colofornian

Rev 22:16 ‘I, Jesus did send my messenger to testify to you these things concerning the assemblies; I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright and morning star!

Perhaps you would reconcile the teaching in Isaiah 14:12 with the proclamation of Jesus in Revelation 22:16?


246 posted on 10/16/2010 12:11:55 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Stourme

You don’t know much about LDS eschatology, do you?

I am currently researching a book on the subject and have discovered several references to the “first presidency of the millennium” where Jesus will reign from Missouri and the earth will only be filled with Mormons.

This isn’t paranoia, it is your church’s teachings.

And if mormons loved their neighbor ‘no matter who they are’. why do the keep calling everyone else (even Jews) ‘gentiles’??

Jesus inspires me to love Mormons enough not to let them go to hell without telling them the truth.

I don’t hate Mormons, I don’t trust them, but I don’t hate them either.


247 posted on 10/16/2010 12:39:16 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Stourme

Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were great LIARS.


248 posted on 10/16/2010 12:40:11 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: ejonesie22
[ejonesie22 tempts]
 
Because there is a lot of miss information out there

Examples?

 

 

 

 

[Stourme responds]

[ Molon Labbie ] The Mormons also believe that we were married before we came to the earthly realm.

[ Molon Labbie ] The believe the Meso American deity Quetzacoatl was in fact Jesus.

 


249 posted on 10/16/2010 12:42:46 PM PDT by Stourme
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To: Paragon Defender

Undecided readers,

If you peruse the Free Republic religion forums you will notice a pattern. There’s a group of cultists, known as mormons. While you cannot see the magic underwear they wear as they type their posts, it (apparently) gives them powers to obfuscate and demean others with generalities, while avoiding ever giving a factual answer.

Beware their links to the perverted and historically condemned doctrines of demons - mormonism.

Many of us here are Christians, who believe the Bible, and consequently are posting to expose these perversions of the Scriptures and of the person of Christ. It turns out that cultists do not appreciate it when someone invalidates their experience.

Beware their attempts to style themselves as Christians, while denying the Church, the Savior, in fact, God, and making Them into a created things.

Beware their strawman arguments.

Beware their attempts to generalize while avoiding any:

...Facts
...Evidence
...Logical reasoning

They often try to portray Christians who are fulfilling the commands to expose evil as “bashers” or “anti-mormons”. This is convenient for them, but false. We oppose the doctrine of mormonism...

... Just as the Apostle Paul did:

“But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!”
- Galatians 1:8


250 posted on 10/16/2010 12:55:03 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Colofornian

Hi Colofornian,

When I pray, I pray to the Father in the name of Jesus Christ, but I don’t see any problem with anyone saying they worship Jesus Christ. He is the Saviour of all mankind, so he is absolutely worthy of worship.

Regards,

Normandy


251 posted on 10/16/2010 12:55:53 PM PDT by Normandy
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To: FormerACLUmember

Galatians 1:

6 ¶ I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.


252 posted on 10/16/2010 1:31:46 PM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: Stourme
Actually the Quetzacoatl piece is believed by some in the LDS.

http://www.jefflindsay.com/bme9.shtml

I cannot speak to the other, not come across it myself, but given the wide variety of varying LDS stories and such put out by the LDS leadership and others over the years it would be a good bet someone in "authority" claimed it as fact.

253 posted on 10/16/2010 1:50:10 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Stourme
So are you claiming the White Horse prophecy is made up by "Mormon haters"...

Is loving ones neighbor why "General" Joseph Smith raised a 5000 plus man army, one that almost rivaled the actual standing army of the United States (7500).

Perhaps you may want a new prescription for that glass there, for whether what those of use who are exposing the truth of Mormonism do is does in a loving or a hateful spirit it doesn't make the truth we bring magically false nor does it make Mormon "truths" suddenly real.

For the masses, exposing Mormonism is a loving but tough ministry. There are folks caught deep and operators (handles) that work hard to keep them. They will paint anything in a light of victim hood. It works on the weak and misinformed. We get called lots of things, we get used to it, expect it, embrace it. A simple review of the tactics and the truths involved tells the tale.

254 posted on 10/16/2010 2:05:44 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: nmh

if it is wrong to use mary as an intercession, the I guess it is wrong to have someone pray for you, or for you to ask someone to pray to God for you.


256 posted on 10/16/2010 2:58:06 PM PDT by Veritas01 (Veritas)
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To: who knows what evil?

...at least Mormons knew better than to vote for Barack Obama...
___________________________________________

DUH

SALT LAKE COUNTY IN UTAH...


257 posted on 10/16/2010 3:09:19 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Graybeard58
I strongly encourage you to read the book of Esther. Thank you. I've read it many times when I was a child but now I am old and haven't read it for a long time. I'll read it again now with new understanding like we get with the benefit of age. I use the Jewish Publication Society (JPS) 1917 version which is much the same as KJV.
258 posted on 10/16/2010 3:11:22 PM PDT by tommix2
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To: reaganaut; BlackVeil; Elsie

Actually wasnt wearing special garments started as a special badge for the special selected members of Joey Smiths secret and seclusive/exclusive PlayBoy Club ???


259 posted on 10/16/2010 3:15:01 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: reaganaut
Be gentle Reaganaut, be gentle...

;-)

260 posted on 10/16/2010 3:16:23 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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