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What Mormon Missionaries WON'T Tell You
Contender Ministries [False Religions] ^ | unknown | anonymous

Posted on 10/15/2010 5:39:02 PM PDT by delacoert

Most of us have had a Mormon Missionary knock at our door.  If you have ever invited them in and listened to a presentation of their beliefs, you probably found most but not all of what they said very similar to those beliefs held by Christians.  However, while trying to convince you that your Church is wrong and the Mormon Church is right, there are several points they intentionally leave out.  Below is a list of Mormon beliefs the missionaries will be reluctant to tell you about:

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that the God they worship was not always God.

"We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity.  I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see."  (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 345)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that they believe Jesus Christ is the spirit brother of Satan:

"The appointment of Jesus to be the Savior of the world was contested by one of the other sons of God.  He was called Lucifer, son of the morning.  Haughty, ambitious, and covetous of power and glory, this spirit-brother of Jesus desperately tried to become the Savior of mankind."  (Milton R. Hunter, Gospel Through the Ages, pg.15)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that, according to Mormonism, Jesus Christ was a polygamist.

"I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he begat children."  (Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses 2:210)

 

The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based upon polygamy, according to the testimony of the philosophers who rose in that age.  A belief in the doctrine of a plurality of wives caused the persecution of Jesus and his followers.  We might almost think they were 'Mormons'" (Jedediah M. Grant, Journal of Discourses, 1:346)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that for at least half a century church leaders were teaching that Adam was really God and the only God with whom we have to do.

"Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner!  When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him.  He helped to make and organize this world.  He is Michael, the Archangel, the Ancient of Days! about whom holy men have written and spoken--He is our Father, and our God, and the only God with whom we have to do."  (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 1:50)

 

"I have learned by experience that there is but one God that pertains to this people and he is the god that pertains to this earth--The first man.  That first man sent his own son to redeem the world..."(Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 4:1)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that Brigham Young, who held the office of President of the Mormon church longer than any other man, taught that men must practice polygamy in order to become Gods.

"The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy."  (Journal of Discourses 11:269)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that the book of Mormon fails to contain any Mormon doctrine

Many portions of this Mormon Scripture even contradicts Mormon theology.

 

They will be reluctant to tell you about their secret temple ceremonies which, until April 1990, portrayed Christian ministers as hirelings of Satan.  Nor will they tell you about the sacred underwear they are wearing which, they believe, actually protects them.

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that Mormon leaders have taught that Jesus was conceived by way of a sexual relationship between God and Mary.

"..how are children begotten?  I answer just as Jesus Christ was begotten of his father.  The difference between Jesus Christ and other men is this:  Our fathers in the flesh are mortal men, who are subject unto death: but the Father of Jesus Christ in the flesh is the god of Heaven" (Joseph F. Smith, Family Home Evening Manual, 1972, pg. 125)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that they believe the bible has been corrupted throughout the centuries and cannot be trusted fully by itself.

"I believe the Bible as it read when it came from the pen of the original writers.  Ignorant translators, careless transcribers, or designing and corrupt priests have committed many errors." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph smith, pg.327)

"But the Bible has been robbed of its plainness; many sacred books having been lost, others rejected by the Romish Church, and what few we have left, were copied and recopied so many times, that it is admitted that almost every verse has been corrupted and mutilated to that degree that any two of them read alike." (Orson Pratt, The Seer, pg.213)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covenants, which they claim to be both sacred and without error, contradict each other many times.

For example, in the Book of Mormon, God called David and Solomon's act of polygamy an abomination, whereas in the Doctrine and Covenants He claims to justify it.  Jacob 2:24 in the Book of Mormon says, "Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord."  Section 132:1 in the Doctrine and Covenants, however, states: "Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you my servant Joseph, that inasmuch as you have inquired of my hand to know and understand wherein I, the Lord, justified my servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as also Moses, David and Solomon, my servants, as touching the principle and doctrine of their having many wives and concubines."

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that they use Christian terms with Mormon meanings.

For example, a Mormon would probably agree with you that a person must be born again.  To the Mormon, however, "born again" is a process which begins with water baptism.  Another example are the words "salvation" and exaltation," which are synonymous in the Christian's mind.  However, general salvation to the Mormon merely means the resurrection which everyone in the world will receive at death.  Exaltation, or individual salvation, is the reward earned by the Mormon by following the laws of the Moron church.  "Eternal Life" to the Mormon means Godhood.  Regarding the word "scriptures," the Christian thinks of the Holy Bible while the Mormon could be thinking of not only the Bible but the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price as well.

 

They won't want to tell you that in order to gain entrance into the highest form of Mormon heaven, the Celestial kingdom, you must accept Joseph Smith, Jr. as a prophet of god.  Faith in Jesus alone, Mormonism teaches, will force you to spend eternity in a lower form of heaven.

 

Tenth LDS President Joseph Fielding Smith stated in his book, doctrines of Salvation, that there is "No salvation without accepting Joseph Smith.  The word "salvation," used in this context, must really mean "exaltation" because former Mormon apostle Bruce R. McConkie stated in his book Mormon Doctrine that general salvation is given to everyone regardless of belief.  Personal salvation or exaltation to the highest form of Mormon heaven comes only by accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of god and by following the laws of the LDS church.

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that their founder, Joseph Smith, Jr., made many false prophecies which, according to the Bible, would classify him as a false prophet rather than a true prophet of God.

 

For instance, in 1835 Smith claimed that the Lord would again come in just 56 years.  We would gather from this "prophecy" that Jesus Christ would again come to earth on or before 1891; no doubt Joseph Smith was incorrect (History of the church 2:182).  In 1832 Joseph Smith claimed he had a revelation concerning the building of a temple in Independence, Missouri.  According to section 84, verses 4 and 5, of the Doctrine and Covenants, he stated this "temple shall be reared in this generation.  For verily this generation shall not pass away until an house shall be built unto the Lord, and a cloud shall rest upon it..."  to this day the spot consecrated by Smith fails to be the sight of a great temple, but instead is covered with a well-kept lawn.  In fact, the Mormon church does not even own the land.

 


TOPICS: Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: apostasy; blasphemy; falsereligion; inman; josephsmith; lds; mormonism; unscriptural
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To: MHGinTN

indeed!


181 posted on 10/16/2010 7:13:28 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: delacoert
...not to I agree with the spirit of your anti-Catholicism at all.

It's the old, "Let's get them fighting each other, and then we'll slink away." ploy.

182 posted on 10/16/2010 7:15:06 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Terry Mross

And only Mormon companies make the garments.

 
And 'Christian' companies tend to put the 'fish' symbol somewhere to be seen. 
 
 
 I wonder what 'Mormon' companies do?

183 posted on 10/16/2010 7:18:21 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Nailed it!


184 posted on 10/16/2010 7:19:44 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I think the printing press predates Free Republic by more than just a tad, too. Revisit my reply and understand that I was speaking to the vitriol on FR, which is political at its root, stemming from Romney’s failed run in ‘08.


185 posted on 10/16/2010 7:20:25 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: DouglasKC
The bashers generally don't really espouse any kind of doctrine.

SURELY this does NOT extend to me, for I post PLENTY of 'doctrine'!!

Most ALL of it MORMON!

186 posted on 10/16/2010 7:20:55 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BlackVeil
But I do not care.

You must 'care' about something; or you would not be posting...

187 posted on 10/16/2010 7:23:29 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Molon Labbie
 

They also believe that there was a great Mormon civilization in America long ago and that the second coming will be in Independence, Missouri.

 

 

Here are some of their 'milk' beliefs:

 




 
The Articles of Faith
of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
 
 

  1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
  2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
  3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
  4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
  5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
  6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
  7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
  8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
  9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
  10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
  11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
  12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
  13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith


188 posted on 10/16/2010 7:25:25 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MadRepublican
I do hope though that you will take the opportunity though to learn firsthand what we share about the Lord Jesus Christ.

Good sources; every one.


And folks can go to OTHER places to learn about what you really do not WANT to share about MORMONism.

189 posted on 10/16/2010 7:27:01 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: KevinDavis

I’m more concerned about Muslims than I am about Mormons
____________________________________________

Why ???

Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell. Matthew 10:28


190 posted on 10/16/2010 7:27:07 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: MadRepublican
As a Mormon, I can affirm that I am on the right road—and that road leads to Christ.

At least you realize that you ain't there yet!

191 posted on 10/16/2010 7:28:07 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: KevinDavis

...at least Mormons knew better than to vote for Barack Obama...


192 posted on 10/16/2010 7:29:09 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: MadRepublican
It’s unfortunate that there’s a lot of misinformation out there on the web about what Mormon’s believe—including in this thread.

BINGO!!

You just called us LIARS!

It is now on YOUR shoulders to actually POINT OUT this MIS-information!

193 posted on 10/16/2010 7:30:16 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana; tommix2
Yes its pachad not yirat

In a post just a few minutes ago, I encouraged tommix2 to read (or reread) the book of Esther, because he had stated something to the effect that the Jews shouldn't have inspired fear in their enemies by threatening to destroy them, which we know was no idle threat but one that was carried out.

Yes, it was real fear and taken in context, entirely justified.

The Book of Esther is one beautiful story.

Selah.

194 posted on 10/16/2010 7:31:44 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Nobody reads tag lines.)
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To: MadRepublican
Anyone who knows ANYTHING about Mormonism would know otherwise.

MORMONs claim to worship ONE god.

And that ONE god happens to have TWO physical bodies.

195 posted on 10/16/2010 7:31:56 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Graybeard58
My big question though remains, where's a possible compromise on the subject of transubstantiation?

Thanks for your Q.

Re: Compromise:

"trans" = "change" RC believe that the Bread & Wine Really undergoes a "change." So while RC gets "kudos" for realizing that communion is more than just symbolic language...that Jesus wasn't just using symbolic language in John 6...it goes too far in suggesting the actual elements "change" into the very body & blood of Christ...almost as if you were biting into His knuckles.

IOW, Jesus as the Bread and Blood of Life merged His two natures: He was both truly man, and truly God. His human nature didn't "transubstantiate" into the divine nature upon leaving earth. He still is the everlasting God-Man.

Therefore, I believe RC should take their cue from this merged nature of Christ, and realize that Jesus was also presenting Himself for the Lord's Supper in this same way: The merged nature of communion. Yes, He embodies the bread and wine, but He doesn't transubstantiate it. He is both the Bread sent down from Heaven as well as the Living Bread that nourishes us in Communion.

So I was merely saying that were the RC to move on that -- and recognize the Lord's merged nature and apply it to the Lord's Supper -- it could be closer to the true presentation of the Lord's Supper as disclosed by the Bible. (Obviously, if they took my advice, many RC would indeed consider that a "compromise")

Likewise, some Christian churches need to move beyond treating the Lord's Supper and the words describing it as mere symbolic language. They, too, need to rethink passages like the John 6 segment I cited. And to reiterate, the heart of what I would say they need to reconsider is John 6:52-55:

52Then the Jews began to argue sharply among themselves, "How can this man give us his flesh to eat?" 53Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in him.

Jesus says "the truth" is "unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you." And He says He is really food; and really drink. He is really present in that food and drink, even if it doesn't change substance.

Therefore, the RC, even tho they go too far, are at least closer to the posture of seeing Christ really present in the Bread and Wine.

Bottom line:
If Christians recognized how Christ is really present in this bread and wine, and simply accepted John 6:52-55 at face value; if they moved beyond symbolism -- and if RC acknowledge Christ being really present and backed off some about the literalism -- that is where the so-called "compromise" would be and you would have agreement among the denominations about this.

196 posted on 10/16/2010 7:32:46 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: KevinDavis

Down the Rabbit hole time?


197 posted on 10/16/2010 7:34:32 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: KevinDavis
Funny I don’t recall Mormons hijacking planes and slamming planes in the WTC..

Then you haven't heard the Fanchers report of the Original 9/11; have you?

198 posted on 10/16/2010 7:35:52 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Paragon Defender
They post regurgitated propaganda on an almost daily basis.

All I've seen anti Mormonism posters post is from Mormon sources and yet you refer to it as, "regurgitated propaganda".

199 posted on 10/16/2010 7:37:17 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Nobody reads tag lines.)
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To: MadRepublican

I’ve previously read through those sources and none of it contradicts what I’ve read here.


200 posted on 10/16/2010 7:38:03 AM PDT by FourPeas (Pester not the geek, for the electrons are his friends.)
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