Why don't you tell us about the snakes in Tennessee first.
Posted on 08/31/2010 6:42:35 PM PDT by Gamecock
I really like Glenn Beck. Though I have never met him in person, I have often watched his television programs and thought it would be so nice to have that kind of a guy as a friend. I imagine that he is far too busy and way too inaccessible for that to become a reality, but I do genuinely like the man. He is insightful, articulate, funny, and seems to want some great things for his family and our nation. I do think that sometimes he has one or two conspiracy theories that may not be fully justified - we shall see - but all in all, Glenn seems to be a really nice guy.
I share many of the same goals as Glenn. I speak as one born in England but now very much a U.S. citizen. All my children were born here in these United States and I live and pray for America to become in all reality, "one nation under God." I love America. I sincerely believe Glenn does too.
But I do have a problem - not a problem with him as a person in any way at all, but when he asks me to join him in praying for the very same things I wish for my country, I just cannot. I can pray for these things privately, and with fellow Christians, of course, and I do. I just cannot stand with Glenn in a public setting and be comfortable while I know he is praying to a false god. How could I ever say "Amen" at the end of his prayer that people would turn back to the god he serves? I just cannot do it. That is because Glenn Beck is a Mormon. The "god" he prays to is not in any way the same God as mine.
I know.. I know.. even saying this is politically and religiously incorrect, but I cannot help but say it. When Glenn Beck speaks of "god" we need to remember that he uses a different dictionary to Christians. The God of the Bible is One in essence and eternally exists in three co-equal Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Mormons reject this completely, believing that there are many worlds controlled by different gods and the god of this planet was once a man. The Jesus of Mormonism is the begotten offspring of this exalted man in sexual union with one of his many wives, and this god lives on a planet circling a star named Kolob, and his "gospel" is the message of how you, too, can be exalted to godhood. Christianity is Monotheistic. Mormonism is the most polytheistic religion in the world. Doctrine matters folks and deceived people, deceive people!
A dear fellow Christian, in coming to understand where I am on this issue wrote to me today saying, "I like Glenn Beck and appreciate his effort to bring America back to her godly roots. He is doing a great job in uniting government, church, and media. He does speak from a Mormon perspective but still has a heart of seeing America return to God even though he might not have the same theological view as we do."
I responded by saying, " I understand you - but I cannot agree that Mormonism is in any way "godly." According to the Bible, there is nothing at all godly about false religion. Godliness is not just about acts of service, honor, integrity, courage and the like, as wonderful as these things are, but it also includes worship of the One true God and the avoidance of all forms of idolatry. Mormonism is idolatrous worship and when Glenn Beck prays, despite his intentions, he prays to a false god who cannot help either Mr. Beck or America."
I can remember reading about the worshippers of the golden calf. They had high family values and were absolutely sincere in their worship. Now I may not be the sharpest tool in the drawer, but I do tend to get the distinct impression that God didn't like the worship - yeah, the ground opening up and swallowing the worshippers.. hmmm... it does lead me to believe that God was somehow ticked, wouldn't you say?
And then I wonder what God would feel about a "prophet" in the Old Testament asking Baal to bring Israel back to its godly roots. I think in such times, he would be stoned. In Deuteronomy 18:20 God says to His people, "But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die."
God often tested His people by seeing if they would be true to Him even as false prophets tried to lure them away from Himself. God says, "If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and hold fast to him. But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of slavery, to make you leave the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from your midst" (Deuteronomy 13:1-5).
Thank God for grace!!! (we don't stone false prophets now) but I believe God's feelings about false worship have not changed. As Glenn Beck calls this nation to pray for some very valuable, important and even vital things, I ask now, is God testing us in the same way today? Perhaps God has raised Glenn Beck up for this very purpose, to test our hearts. Just a thought!
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord, the one and only God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the eternal One, Yahweh, the great I AM, the Alpha and Omega, who is from everlasting to everlasting.
So, though I really like you Glenn, thanks for the invite, but I cannot join you.
Well that true ..just freep mail me anytime..I will pray for you
Exactly
Awwww. How sweet. I’ll do the same for you.
Yeah but not what he thinks...
I wouldn't to quick to judge what Glenn thinks at any one time. He seems to be furthering his knowledge of history and theology continually.
Mr. Beck, for one so young with an admitted history of foolishness, has come a long way in his personal and public life. If he continues to progress, he may be as wise as you someday!
It was the great shaking of the church...
According to the predictions of a Pope Malachy back around 1139, we're down to the second to last Pope. What do you think this means if true?
Rain?
Buckets! One day we had about two inches. Thunderbirds were flying high.
Does that include the Catholic church telling us that Mormonism is not a Christian religion, does it include the Greek Orthodox telling us that Mormonism is a non-Christian cult?
He seems to be furthering his knowledge of history and theology continually.
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So tell us about those stones in the museum in Ohio.....
The rest went right over your head........
Why don't you tell us about the snakes in Tennessee first.
When somone is throwing eggs at you, you're suppose to duck! ;)
The rest went right over your head........
When somone is throwing eggs at you, you’re suppose to duck! ;)
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So quoting Christian Bible scripture is “throwing eggs” to you ???
Amazing...
I posted Christian Bible scripture to one FReeper and then the FReeper,understanding what I said, answered, agreeing with me...”I hope so”
I also seemed to have posted the same to you not knowing where you were spiritually..
You answered off subject, not knowing the Bible...
Yes well.....
As I said it went right over your head...
Maybe thats why I thought I didnt post the same to you originally ???
And thats why I will excuse your equating Christian Bible scripture with snakes and eggs and will not say that those last posts to me were blasphemy...
Oh look I did say so...
Hey Nana, I went back to where Errant was responding to some one else, never saw the scriptures, can you re-post them? (I love the scriptures, don’t you?)
Anyway, you asked about a Decalogue stone in Ohio, was it this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRXiU9il_Uc
Funny, but over on the side bar of this video, along with a list of other LDS videos, this comes up...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqhlQfXUk7w&feature=related
Fitting...
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
:)
A very fitting scripture when discussing the false “prophet” Joe Smith and all the other appointed by committee “prophets” of the LDS. We have also seen the bitter fruit of the LDS clearly demonstrated the past couple of days.
Thanks for providing the wisdom of the Lord for us.
:)
For some strange reason, it seems to me that the words of Jesus from Luke bare repeating:
Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven.
I never tire of that bit of scripture, do you? It's so hard to comprehend his boundless forgiveness and what he endured and gave for us.
Disagreement with the theological tenets of Mormonism is not bigotry. I agree that Christians must reject the claims of Mormonism, but I also believe Christians should reach out to Mormons with “gentleness and respect” (1 Peter 3:15). I consider it bigotry when an individual’s response to the Beck rally is tantamount to “I agree with the message in principle, but will reject it because the messenger was Mormon.”
Which goes along with what has been shown elsewhere on FR about the Roman Catholic faith, that in it is universalist.
This below isn't bigotry, it is Christian, and American concern.
"I thought I was the only one getting this creepy feeling that Glen was playing a bait and switch game. I used to really like to listen to him until he morphed into his new role as spiritual leader. America's descent into godlessness seems to be being coming from all sides now. What does it benefit a nation to gain back republican, conservative leadership if we lose our national souls to another false god?"
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