Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
I still think of them with love..
well they recognized that Christ wasn’t the focus of the church. I’m not a big believer in the charismatic movement and keep my distance, yet whatever is going on in the Catholic movement is worth note. Either God has sent them a spirit of confusion or he’s enlightening many, or both.
Of course. But your post still illustrates a lack of understanding of a key difference.
And the more we learn, the less the lables seem to adhear to the boxes!
INDEED. And, personally, PRAISE GOD FOR THAT!
GOD ALONE IS WORTHY.
Could be.
Though I think it more likely that the fires of hell are investing more . . . counterfeit energy into the edifice at a faster and faster pace.
Harumph! LOL.
LOL.
Taiwan’s Independence Day.
Fascinating reading, from so many angles (not angels). The proper name is Catholic Charismatic Renewal, CCR .They may have to declare them all heretics and have a purge if they will not respect the authoritay of the heirarchy.
Also there is a Marion wing of the church which either embraces it when the apparitions etc are Mary related, but against it if the CCR leaders protest when the emphases is put on Mary and not the Holy Spirit.
Probably a fitting summary.
You’re incredibly perceptive not to be a Pentecostal or Charismatic?!?!
So much pastry. So little time. 8~)
I haven’t known a great number of RC Charismatics up close and personal.
The few I have known have not been gah gah mindlessly toward Mary at all.
Some even talked of sort of out-growing that kind of fixation and learning that Holy Spirit HIMSELF lifts up Christ—and that any other focus is . . . more than a little beside the point if not out-right dirty and spiritually hazardous.
I used to do some ad work for a christian magazine and consequently met people of every stripe. I met the Jimmy Swaggart type pentecostals, the name it and claim it crowd,the ones who would grab you and shake all over praying in tongues, and older AGs who seemed pretty much like baptists.
well that’s what I’m thinking, might be good, I don’t know. the Mary crowd will get them exiled then they can be heretics like us
I should have kept track of some of their names that have surfaced over the years. They occasionally give a blip of a disclosure then fade back into the RC woodwork. None of them are thrilled by the
FIERCE ATTACK MODE of the usual RC regulars.
A few seem to be more . . . typical . . . in terms of RC doctrinal excesses than I’d be comfortable being . . . however, even they seem to place Holy Spirit’s leading above the usual INSTITUTIONAL mumbo-jumbo.
At least they seem to have a slight or better preference for
SEEKING GOD’S FACE rather than the Pope’s ring.
The Bible clearly says not to pray to statues. I doubt God is hoodwinked by Roman Catholic deflection which tries to persuade men and God that they are praying not to the statue but to the person now deceased who may or may not be in heaven.
Scripture tells us to pray to God alone. Just one more example of Rome ignoring the word of God.
lol, will the 10 thousand post be about pie?
I used to be tempted to judge such folks.
I learned that wasn’t fitting! Doh!
They were at least learning how to hear and follow The Lord’s leading in their individual lives and He was well able to get His priorities across to them given their heart attitudes and willingness to follow Him.
Certainly God looks on the heart. And, who am I to say—had I been reared in such an INSTITUTION for 70 years . . . was nearing the end of my sojourn here, had lots of family etc . . . I could conceive of staying within that context and sharing the new LIFE IN HOLY SPIRIT I’d been learning about in bits and drabs as I felt His leading helping me get away with it.
Besides, they were attending services where they could get recharged, blessed, eneregized more intensely and directly by Holy Spirit than is typical in most RC contexts.
And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things... Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen."-- Roman 1:22-23,25 "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
It says:
"You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or worship them…Now, what is an idol? And how could the same statue be either an idol or not be an idol?
Biblically with extremely rare . . . curious verses . . .
God is NOT the author of confusion. The enemy is.
Certainly both sides are assaulting individuals all the time. All the more so the closer they walk according to Holy Spirit’s leading.
And, given
1. A FORM OF RELIBION DENYING THE POWER THEREOF
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2. A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS INCREASINGLY LED OF HOLY SPIRIT
which group is it more logical the enemy would pull out the stops attacking, trying to pollute, derail, seed sexual perverseness into etc. etc. . . . the group already in his camp . . . or the one manifesting increasing amounts of Holy Spirit’s work
????
—a no brainer.
imho.
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