Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
OK. Scripture is meaningless when compared to the One Holy.......group of self appointed men.
I'm just following your lead boss. You raised the Arlen.
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You wish!
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“Are you queen of anything?”
“His posts do have a definite ‘Bawney Fwank’ flavor to them...”
These posts have all the seeming character of thinly-disguised, carefully finessed insults.
I don’t respect this genre of posting. It accomplishes nothing except a demonstration of nothing better to post than sarcasm (not noted as such) and disrespect of another poster on the FR religion forum.
With you here, we’re at the basement.
Going up...
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I agree.
There is no excuse for what you posted.
And you are doing it again.
You are making this thread about a poster and you are insulting that poster.
Which are you, the pot or the kettle?
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Well I think blessed means blessed, God blessed mary, she was not however Bless ed she was blessed
It does seem so..but every once in a while an actual regular Catholic will say something so absurd that they can not be anything but uninformed and willing to show it
The reason I think that the church has taught that is that they do not like the idea of the birth canal of Mary involved in anything after the birth of Christ..it all goes back to the whole Jewish "clean and unclean " laws..
One thing is certain.. even if that was true, or even if Mary became a prostitute after the birth..it has NOTHING to do with our salvation. Mary and her sexual life is not a question of import to our eternity
AMEN..this whole doctrine comes from Asceticism
I get what you're getting at, but I wonder why all the effort to do so. This kind of effort at knocking Mary down a peg - blessed not bless ed for example - tends to reduce the Incarnation and as a consequence deficient Christology and further problems with the Holy Trinity. Mary is the way through which God chose to make the Word become flesh. Separating off, reducing any part of it, reduces or diminishes the Incarnation - fundamental to the Christian faith.
Are you the one that said that "Jesus' body carried God."
There is no priesthood in the NT church .. The Levitical Priesthood was a type of Christ that was fulfilled by Christ, He is our final High Priest.In 70 AD God put an exclamation point on that fact when He destroyed the jewish Priesthood .. what the priest is, is deceived
Unfortunately there is no official, inspired magisterium commentary of the entire scriptures. Most of what one finds on the internet is simply one man's own personal interpretation of the scripture, not an official magisterium one .
Where He calls himself "the son of man "
You can not believe it because.." the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned."1Cr 2:14
Mark, unfortunately those that developed that reading and those that accept it, can not rightly divide Scripture they can not see the types and shadow of Christ, because they do not know who He is or how to find him.
On top of the ark was the mercy seat that was the seat of God.. the blood of the sacrifices was poured onto it as a propitiation for sin.. that ark was a type of Christ
Exd 25:21 And thou shalt put the mercy seat above upon the ark; and in the ark thou shalt put the testimony that I shall give thee.
22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which [are] upon the ark of the testimony, of all [things] which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.
Look to Christ
And priests ...
It does seem so..but every once in a while an actual regular [Roman] Catholic will say something so absurd that they can not be anything but uninformed and willing to show it
I’ve noticed that.
A frightful thing to observe . . . quite akin to folks ‘sheltered’ in a cult.
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