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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: count-your-change

Thanks.

Did you read the pdf article?


9,181 posted on 10/06/2010 10:03:02 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Lera

Usually that has not worked well with pdf files. Maybe things have changed.

BTW, does anyone know why adobe would insist on reinstalling the pdf software EVERY TIME—EVEN IMMEDIATELY AFTER JUST INSTALLING IT???

sheesh.


9,182 posted on 10/06/2010 10:06:38 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr; wagglebee

OMG, Calvin spoke perfect Engrish!!!


9,183 posted on 10/06/2010 10:08:17 PM PDT by Jaded (I realized that after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F)
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To: Quix
"It certainly does trash the lie that Christ had no blood half siblings and therefore the lie that Mary had no more children."

As much as I would like to believe otherwise the James Ossuary is a fake.

In an article in the Jerusalem Post dated 18 June 2003, the Israeli Antiquities Authority published a report concluding that the inscription is a modern forgery based on their analysis of the patina. Specifically, it appears that the inscription was added recently and made to look old by addition of a chalk solution.

9,184 posted on 10/06/2010 10:10:11 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Quix
"NOPE. Nor do the white hankys"

At least you are admitting that you are an anti-Catholic.

9,185 posted on 10/06/2010 10:13:07 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Quix

With a pdf file you can set security on it to keep people from disassembling them , cutting & pasting ,printing etc .

On this one no security is set against cutting and pasting , I checked .

Never had that happen to me with Adobe before . Maybe you are bugged and need uninstall and reinstall a fresh one.


9,186 posted on 10/06/2010 10:18:01 PM PDT by Lera
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To: Quix

Yea, I’d like to know too...how can you tell if you already have the most rescent let alone the one they flash on your computer that now needs downloading?


9,187 posted on 10/06/2010 10:21:26 PM PDT by caww
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To: Natural Law

NOT AT ALL.

MANGLING REALITY AGAIN, I SEE.


9,188 posted on 10/06/2010 10:29:16 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Natural Law

I don’t know which report is more recent.


9,189 posted on 10/06/2010 10:29:44 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Lera

Thx thx.


9,190 posted on 10/06/2010 10:30:21 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: caww

If you can get the durn thing open, you can check the version number.


9,191 posted on 10/06/2010 10:30:54 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Yes, I did. A few weeks ago there was also a program on cable about recent finds of Biblical antiquities.

I don’t recall how much the box was sold for but a figure of hundreds of thousands of dollars seems about right.
Of course there are also reputations and egos to be protected and stroked but at last count I believe the Israeli Antiquities Authority was treating it as an old box with an inscription part old, part recent.

At least that’s my memory of the affair.


9,192 posted on 10/06/2010 10:34:46 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Natural Law
"Maybe the Jedi mind trick really does work on anti-Catholics."

Please define anti-Catholic.

9,193 posted on 10/06/2010 10:45:19 PM PDT by John Leland 1789 (Grateful)
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To: count-your-change

THX THX.


9,194 posted on 10/06/2010 10:47:03 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: metmom

I too have trouble envisioning Mary as a mixture of Joan of Arc and Wonder Woman.


9,195 posted on 10/06/2010 10:48:21 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: caww; Quix

Yea, I’d like to know too...how can you tell if you already have the most rescent let alone the one they flash on your computer that now needs downloading?


Open Adobe Reader
Click on help
Click on about Adobe Reader
You will get a red pop up that tells you which version you have

Latest Version is 9.4


9,196 posted on 10/06/2010 10:58:41 PM PDT by Lera
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To: Quix
You can do it!

Until the break of dawn
Life, life, cannot go by the letter
Time, time, Prozac can make it better
Noise, noise, any kind will do
Can you feel it slip away, well it's all on you

Crime, crime, rockin' like Janet Reno
Time, time, eighteen and life in Chino
Freud, Freud, all alone it's true
Well you see the coming day catches up to you, yeah

Knock down the walls-
It's alive in you
Knock down the place-
You're alone it's true
Knock down the world-
It's alive in you

9,197 posted on 10/07/2010 12:03:23 AM PDT by Cronos (Hollandaise)
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To: OLD REGGIE
I really haven't understood what the deal was, "in persona Christe" means "in the person of Christ", "alter Christe" means practically the same thing..

They don't mean nearly the same thing.

Well fine, the priest is alter Christus acting in persona christi

From the Cat:

In the person of Christ the Head . . .

1548 In the ecclesial service of the ordained minister, it is Christ himself who is present to his Church as Head of his Body, Shepherd of his flock, high priest of the redemptive sacrifice, Teacher of Truth. This is what the Church means by saying that the priest, by virtue of the sacrament of Holy Orders, acts in persona Christi Capitis:23
It is the same priest, Christ Jesus, whose sacred person his minister truly represents. Now the minister, by reason of the sacerdotal consecration which he has received, is truly made like to the high priest and possesses the authority to act in the power and place of the person of Christ himself (virtute ac persona ipsius Christi).24

Christ is the source of all priesthood: the priest of the old law was a figure of Christ, and the priest of the new law acts in the person of Christ.25
1549 Through the ordained ministry, especially that of bishops and priests, the presence of Christ as head of the Church is made visible in the midst of the community of believers.26 In the beautiful expression of St. Ignatius of Antioch, the bishop is typos tou Patros: he is like the living image of God the Father.27

1550 This presence of Christ in the minister is not to be understood as if the latter were preserved from all human weaknesses, the spirit of domination, error, even sin. The power of the Holy Spirit does not guarantee all acts of ministers in the same way. While this guarantee extends to the sacraments, so that even the minister's sin cannot impede the fruit of grace, in many other acts the minister leaves human traces that are not always signs of fidelity to the Gospel and consequently can harm the apostolic fruitfulness of the Church.

1551 This priesthood is ministerial. "That office . . . which the Lord committed to the pastors of his people, is in the strict sense of the term a service."28 It is entirely related to Christ and to men. It depends entirely on Christ and on his unique priesthood; it has been instituted for the good of men and the communion of the Church. The sacrament of Holy Orders communicates a "sacred power" which is none other than that of Christ. The exercise of this authority must therefore be measured against the model of Christ, who by love made himself the least and the servant of all.29 "The Lord said clearly that concern for his flock was proof of love for him."30
ADDRESS OF POPE JOHN PAUL II TO THE CLERGY OF ROME Thursday, 13 February 1997
it is essential always to put Jesus Christ at the centre of all our efforts. St Cyprian rightly said that the Christian, every Christian, is “another Christ” — Christianus alter Christus. But we would be even more correct to say, with the whole of our great tradition, Sacerdos alter Christus. This too is the deepest meaning of his vocation to the priesthood and of the joy felt by every new priest who is ordained.

ADDRESS OF HIS HOLINESS BENEDICT XVI TO THE BISHOPS OF THE EPISCOPAL CONFERENCE OF ENGLAND AND WALES ON THEIR "AD LIMINA" VISIT Monday, 1st February 2010
Be close to your priests, and rekindle their sense of the enormous privilege and joy of standing among the people of God as alter Christus. In Newman’s words, “Christ’s priests have no priesthood but His … what they do, He does; when they baptize, He is baptizing; when they bless, He is blessing” (Parochial and Plain Sermons, VI 242)

BENEDICT XVI GENERAL AUDIENCE Wednesday, 24 June 2009
As an alter Christus, the priest is profoundly united to the Word of the Father who, in becoming incarnate took the form of a servant, he became a servant (Phil 2: 5-11). The priest is a servant of Christ, in the sense that his existence, configured to Christ ontologically, acquires an essentially relational character: he is in Christ, for Christ and with Christ, at the service of humankind.

9,198 posted on 10/07/2010 3:37:27 AM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: Legatus
All that proofreading and I totally goofed up the attributions:

me: I really haven't understood what the deal was, "in persona Christe" means "in the person of Christ", "alter Christe" means practically the same thing..

OR: They don't mean nearly the same thing.

me: Well fine, the priest is alter Christus acting in persona Christi ... etc...
9,199 posted on 10/07/2010 3:40:54 AM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: Forest Keeper; Jaded; Judith Anne; Legatus; maryz; NYer; Salvation; Pyro7480; Coleus; narses; ...
As you posted, Calvin wrote the following regarding the perpetual virginity of the Blessed Mother:

Certainly, no man will ever raise a question on this subject, except from curiosity; and no man will obstinately keep up the argument, except from an extreme fondness for disputation.

And your response to this was:

From this Calvin says it's unknowable. That is certainly a denial of her alleged ever-virginity being a truth.

Actually, it IS NOT a denial of the perpetual virginity of the Blessed Mother, it is Calvin pointing out that he simply doesn't know.

However, he does warn against the compulsive obsession that many Protestants have with the Blessed Mother. Calvin says that Protestants should, "rest satisfied with this, that no just and well-grounded inference can be drawn from these words of the Evangelist," I just don't see that happening.

9,200 posted on 10/07/2010 5:42:34 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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