Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Late first century developments attributed to Jamnia
Today, there is no scholarly consensus as to when the Jewish canon was set. Nevertheless, the outcomes attributed to the Council of Jamnia did occur whether gradually or in a definitive, authoritative council.
I'm really not trying to be argumentative, just collecting information in bits and pieces, to be added to in the future whenever it comes up; lots of what I know I consider known only provisionally -- I can live with a certain amount of uncertainty (lucky thing!)!
lol, who let the dogs out
the little infant on the knee that the Catholics love so, the one the Roman Mary controls access to, that one
ummmm... the bible says it is
No, it does not.
well your Catholic bible probably has the verse crossed out
God had created them with preferences that controlled their decisions and choices.. . So God knew how they would act in any given circumstance . He chose them, they did not choose Him.
Judas acted in accord with the preferences and character that God had created him with .
The most hideous evil ever, was foreordained ..the crucification of the sinless Son of God.
lol, and the Jets
If you will refer to a verse, I’ll refute you. I use the ESV or the NASB.
Are you suggesting an "Infallible" Papal Bull can be negated by a later act of a Pope or a Council?
oooooh...dueling verses
Thanks, I think that you said it well.. we can not freely choose God until His grace has enabled us to ... Our salvation is all the grace of God, from beginning to end
If you think you have a verse, cite it.
I know the verses, I’m contemplating whether it’s a waste of my time seeing as how you have reacted to other posts this am. Know the verse about “a double-minded man”?
“Yet he is actually not far from each one of us, 28for “’In him we live and move and have our being’; as even some of your own poets have said, “’For we are indeed his offspring.’” - Paul in Athens, Acts 17
Were the Athens poets writing scripture?
I never remember reading you say anything like that metmom..
What is unfortunate is the church has managed to cloak this doctrine in a holiness cloak.. when in fact marriage was allowed until the married priests started leave church property to their children .
It is a waste of your time. I’ve read every verse with ‘faith’ in it, and saving faith is never referred to as a gift.
Like me ..my mother in law would have killed any of us that took an UNBAPTIZED baby out of the house
Indeed Limbo was taught as IF it were doctrine to thousands of us ..and surely an unbaptized baby would go there ...so when you do away with limbo that means they would go to hell ...
From the ORIGINAL Baltimore catechism ... A CATECHISM OF CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE
Prepared and Enjoined by Order of The Third Plenary Council of Baltimore
IMPRIMATUR New York, April 6, 1885. John Cardinal McCloskey, Archbishop of New York.
Baltimore, April 6, 1885. "The Catechism ordered by The Third Plenary Council of Baltimore, having been diligently compared and examined, is hereby approved."
+ James Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore, Apostolic Delegate.
LESSON TWELFTH ON BAPTISM
152. Q. What is Baptism?
A. Baptism is a Sacrament which cleanses us from original sin, makes us Christians, children of God, and heirs of heaven.
153. Q. Are actual sins ever remitted by Baptism?
A. Actual sins and all the punishment due to them are remitted by Baptism, if the person baptized be guilty of any, and is rightly disposed.
154. Q. Is Baptism necessary to salvation?
A. Baptism is necessary to salvation, because without it we cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven.
On limbo
Thus the Council of Florence, however literally interpreted, does not deny the possibility of perfect subjective happiness for those dying in original sin, and this is all that is needed from the dogmatic viewpoint to justify the prevailing Catholic notion of the children's limbo, while from the standpoint of reason, as St. Gregory of Nazianzus pointed out long ago, no harsher view can be reconciled with a worthy concept of God's justice and other attributes.
Catholic encyclopedia
Scripture does not teach any of this.. however one would really have to stretch this doctrine to make it fit an unborn infant or infant
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