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Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
He seems to have thought he was a Christian, at least in terms that would have been acceptable in his day. You might say there's no definitive proof, but claiming there's no proof whatsoever seems to be going too far.
At the very least he was a better public Christian than the current President of the United States, even taking into account the way he murdered his way through his own family.
My claim of "no proof whatsoever" could easily be debunked by a single solitary piece of evidence. I am aware of none. Are you?
Are you so predisposed as to accept the Word of God or is your neck so stiff and heart so hardened as to reject the message of our savior? Catholicism is a 2000 year old Bride of Christ not some fly by night protestant outfit constantly branching off in different heretical directions as the Lutherens are currently accomplishing .
The deposit of faith is entrusted to His Bride for interpretation and dissemination not to some who see UFO’s in Fatima. If protestants fail to comprehend simple Catholic teaching how then can they claim to interpret scripture correctly?
I'm assuming you won't accept anything written by Eusebius so I didn't post it. Off the top of my head there's a letter from the emperor to a bishop ordering the construction of a church building in which reference is made to "Our Savior's grace". I realize that's not exactly overwhelming but it's enough to get him killed for being a Christian by a muslim I would imagine.
I'm assuming you won't accept anything written by Eusebius so I didn't post it. Off the top of my head there's a letter from the emperor to a bishop ordering the construction of a church building in which reference is made to "Our Savior's grace". I realize that's not exactly overwhelming but it's enough to get him killed for being a Christian by a muslim I would imagine.
Oh, I imagine Eusebius wrote many things which were true and many things which were completely unsourced. I am not about to get into an exercise to determine which of the writings of Eusebius to accept and which to reject.
Frankly, a reliance solely on Eusebius for the "facts" concerning Constantine is not a place I am willing to go.
I repeat, I have seen no evidence concerning the "Christianity" of Constantine.
You are jiggling very faint memories. LOL.
Thx thx.
Yada, Yada, Yada...
5. And likewise in our own day, Mary, with the ever merciful affection so characteristic of her maternal heart, wishes, through her efficacious intercession with God, to deliver her children from the sad and grief-laden troubles, from the tribulations, the anxiety, the difficulties, and the punishments of God's anger which afflict the world because of the sins of men. Wishing to restrain and to dispel the violent hurricane of evils which, as We lament from the bottom of Our heart, are everywhere afflicting the Church, Mary desires to transform Our sadness into joy. The foundation of all Our confidence, as you know well, Venerable Brethren, is found in the Blessed Virgin Mary. For, God has committed to Mary the treasury of all good things, in order that everyone may know that through her are obtained every hope, every grace, and all salvation. For this is His will, that we obtain everything through Mary.[3]
http://www.ewtn.com/library/encyc/p9ubipr2.htm
This is from your EWTN...What an unGodly and anti Christian religion that would spew such an atrocious lie...
THIS ONE is Broadway at normal size. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their disintegrating Republic.
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THIS ONE is Broaway at +2. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their disintegrating Republic.
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THIS ONE is Broadway at +3. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their disintegrating Republic.
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I think it's hard to read at anything less than +2. However, it is a nice change and is somewhat attractive, to me, too. Always enjoy your commentary on such things. LUB.
Not really, Bro. Not really.
If I could find your explanation of all that, I’d respond to it. It’s been lost in many 100’s of posts etc.
My gestalt memory of that response is that it fit your perspective quite well . . . but just didn’t carry enough water to be very satisfying, to me. I expected it to be more substantive, coming from you, than it seemed to be, to me.
It is fitting to repost those idolatrous, blasphemous items whenever such issues come up or whenever they serve as a good example to counter some outrageousness on the RC side.
If it was about fighting period, I’d find a gif spewing fire and post that much of the time.
That’s not my perspective nor my motivation nor what I wish to bother about.
I just feel that someone on the Proddy side needs to post an emotionally intense, vividly memorable response to a lot off the emotionally intense outrageousness from the RC side.
Even you don’t seem to appreciate why a Proddy might feel duty bound to do such a thing—as unto The Lord.
THERE IS NO CATHOLIC TEACHING WHICH IS SO CLEAR IT CANNOT BE DENIED, MODIFIED, OR RE-INTERPRETED AS REQUIRED!Why the anger? What bothers you so terribly about my Catholic faith?
As we have noted before, different RC’s hereon . . . and sometimes the same RC at different times . . . speak out of different sides of the Vatican mouth and fingers.
It is not Proddys’ fault that the Vatican reps participate in, demosntrate and support the flakey duplicitous multi-position hogwash of the Vatican.
Get a mirror!
THERE IS NO CATHOLIC TEACHING WHICH IS SO CLEAR IT CANNOT BE DENIED, MODIFIED, OR RE-INTERPRETED AS REQUIRED!
Boy is that for sure—backed up by a huge pile of white hankys.
That is why I contend that if ones critical analysis is is so wanting than how can one claim to correctly interpret scripture.
Do not confuse TV programs with official church doctrine.
So? The Catechism is posted online. That is what we believe. Just as the odd proddy who denies one or more Biblical elements exist (even here on this thread) and some even adhere to oddities like UFO cults or discredited splinter groups (sort of lie that odd Aimee Semple Foursquare Fraud), there exist odd members of the Catholic faith. So what? God’s Truth is the issue, and that is what we believe. I hope and pray that you join us both in that belief and the Work He has laid out for us.
When my husband John went to Sydney, Australia, to attend a pastor's conference, he had planned to have time to see a little of this country where he had never been. God had a better plan.
Rudy and Pam Peleis had graciously opened their home for John to stay with them. Rudy had been in a wheel chair for seven years, after a work accident in which he was hit with an iron bar and his spine was broken. He was in much pain and had considered suicide more than once.
John wondered why God had placed him in this home. As he prayed, the Lord gave John a vision of Rudy's healing. Rudy had been prayed over by many people and therefore had a bit of doubt when John told him about his vision.
On the third evening of the conference, Pastor Jim Hayford [Qx doesn't know if he's related to Jack Hayford, or not] preached from Acts 3:1-10, and the Lord quickened the message to Rudy's heart. After the message, Pastor Hayford invited several other pastors to join him and gave an invitation for any who were sick to come forward. Rudy came.
John took Rudy by his hands and said, "Brother Rudolph, in the name of Jesus Christ rise up!" Rudy tried to stand; he wanted to stand up and praise the Lord. Suddenly his legs began to come alive; they supported his weight. Shouts of praise and clapping filled the air. Rudy felt a strong sensation flood his legs and feet. He was now standing without help. God had healed him.
Within three months, Rudy had discarded his crutches as he gained strength and was completely healed.
Vijaya Gnanaolivu
Co-founder of Foursquare India
Is this the same Rudy who was a walk on at Notre Dame and the subject of a great football movie? I bet he prayed at the Grotto and was visited by UFO’s who infused him with the ability to play big time college football. What an amazing story of faith.
And to think I used to refuse belief in UFOS.
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