Intended Catholic Dictatorship

Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

[Hank Kerchief]

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)

[Quix]

Sorry,

that explanation does not translate well into

‘Fantasy Mary White Hanky-Speak.’

[bronx2]

Please. Read Ps 135:16 They have eyes but do not see

If the unwashed refuse to acknowledge their own sins of pride and presumption , they become like whitewashed sepulchers Mt 23 27:28
They would do well do read and believe in the bible and leave the hankies to others.

God bless.

[bronx2]

It was and is the UFO who masks themselves as Sister Aimee and communicates in the Milton Berle method. I do not know if Sister Aimee has a hankie or not.

God bless

[caww]

Just going to tighten this up a bit Quix....;)

"RC’S Have DEMANDED that a list of Proddys be removed virtually from FR'S beginning months. WHAT GIVES WITH THAT????

....Because you're in their way...that's why.

[Natural Law]

"Fantasy Mary White Hanky-Speak."

I'll withhold comment until the English translation is available, thank you.

[bronx2]

That is amazing since most of the non catholic posters on this thread do not believe in the divinity of Jesus, Trinity, God or the bible. I have found a non catholic who believes in Jesus and the bible.

The Age of Miracles is not over. Praise Jesus

[Natural Law]

"RC’S Have DEMANDED that a list of Proddys be removed virtually from FR'S beginning months"

I would really like to see that list to avoid concluding that anyone is bearing false witness or simply confabulating.

[Running On Empty]

I don’t believe that it is verifiable that “(Catholics) have demanded that a list of (Protestants) be removed virtually from FR’S beginning months”

Verification of this accusation would be helpful.

I also don’t believe that “you (Quix) are in their way..that’s why.”

Some posters ARE ubiquitous.

[caww]

Ok...I have seen enough of the opposition to Quix’s interest in the UFO’s....

I think some clarity would be helpful Quix...It is my understanding that your interest is that scripturally there is evidence these could very well be part of the deception God has spoken of. Not necessarily that they are friendly creatures ready to change our world or explore it ...rather that they are demonic beings and part of the spirit world who may very well play a possible roll in the end days?

It is not that Quix is a UFO nut waiting himself to be taken away to some unknown planet...but he sees it as a threat and that people need to become aware as that day approaches.

Care to enlarge or expand on this Quix? I am open certainly to be corrected but I have never taken you to be one of the UFO nutjobs that take these to the extreme.

[nanetteclaret]

Like I said, you believe in “space aliens” and “UFOs.”

[caww]

Ok...I have seen enough of the opposition to Quix’s interest in the UFO’s....

I think some clarity would be helpful Quix...It is my understanding that your interest is that scripturally there is evidence these could very well be part of the deception God has spoken of. Not necessarily that they are friendly creatures ready to change our world or explore it ...rather that they are demonic beings and part of the spirit world who may very well play a possible roll in the end days?

It is not that Quix is a UFO nut waiting himself to be taken away to some unknown planet...but he sees it as a threat and that people need to become aware as that day approaches.

Care to enlarge or expand on this Quix? I am open certainly to be corrected but I have never taken you to be one of the UFO nutjobs that take these to the extreme.

[Iscool]

I'll ask you your question "scripture where it says it no longer was the same substance"? --> Jesus' flesh was glorified, yet it was the same, hence +Thomas being able to poke his fingers in the wounds.

Yet Jesus with his new body could walk thru doors...

And where did you get this that Jesus discarded His human body? Why was there an empty tomb then?

His body was changed...Into another substance...All you guys do is repeat the heresy that you have been taught...Study the scriptures for a change before you pose these crazy questions...

I showed you the scripture that our bodies will change from terrestrial to celestial...Spiritual bodies...Doesn't that sink in or do you need an interpreter???

1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

You can not turn God into your or Mary's corrupted flesh and blood no matter how hard you try...

[caww]

humm-mmmm.

[Cronos]

of course — as I’ve repeated before, I don’t include orthodox Pentecostals like Assembly of God in the same category as Benny Hinn-ites and FourSquare cultists.

[Iscool]

I guess “spiritual” decency is out, too.

Unless one is “making it personal.”

One has to wonder, what are you shooting for???

[Iscool]

While the window is still open can we review the use of pejoratives and offensive terms? Terms like Papist, Romanist, RC, Snake Handlers, Bible Thumpers, Jesus Freaks, O-PeCkers, Dunkers, Hebes, Kikes, Christ Killers, etc, that are clearly, historically, and demonstrably offensive have no place in an Religion Forum.

But then how would you be able to carry on a conversation???

[metmom]

Quix is not alone in that thinking. That’s been bounced around as an option for decades.

It’s a plausible explanation for the disappearance of millions taken by the Rapture. Any who do not know better can be taken in by that as an explanation IF there is enough groundwork laid to support the belief in extraterrestrials, as is happening now.

The way that it could be used by the anti-Christ is in portraying alien abduction as a threat against mankind that mankind must unite against, loyalty to mankind and against the threat being demonstrated by the receiving of a mark either on the right hand or forehead.

Instead of FORCING people to take it, he’d be having people lining up to volunteer to take it to show their loyalty to mankind or humanity.

I find it rather interesting that the mockery and derision of this as a possibility comes from the camp who sees images of Christ or Mary in things like stains on floors, burnt toast, or tree bark. Any people’s ready to believe that kind of nonsense is more than ripe for believing in alien abduction. Catholicism does little or nothing to protect its adherents from superstitious nonsense.

[1000 silverlings]

Good for you, marginalize a whole group of people that dont hold the same world view as you do and then ridicule (persecute) them for their beliefs. After all where do they get off thinking they have rights. Agree with the collective, eh comrade? no individualism, no free thinkers allowed in our barracks, one size fits all

[Cronos]

The OPC may make a big noise on this and other threads, but they are only 28,000 people as of 2005 and still showing a downward trend in adherents, Their own website http://opc.org/GA/73rd_GA_rpt_topical.html says":

In 2005 three congregations withdrew from the OPC to join the Presbyterian Church in America, one of which was a rather large congregation, resulting in a net loss of members for the OPC in 2005. The membership of the OPC has remained at about 28,000 for more than two years, which is a cause of concern.

so they make a lot of noise for such a small grouping and don't regard even their fellow Presbyterians well -- I wonder what they think of the sub-groups that formed from them like the Bible Presbyterian C and the Evangelical Presbyterian C



And the OPC has split TWICE so far --> and it's going to split again with a Former Orthodox Presbyterian Church (OPC) ruling elder Paul M. Elliott. writing in A Denomination in Denial: An Evaluation of the Report of the Committee to Study the Doctrine of Justification of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church,

For years, the neo-liberals and their enablers have continually pleaded for brotherly love, understanding, and toleration, while gaining evergreater control. Today, neoliberals and their enablers clearly hold the upper hand. Satan has won his war of attrition against the one true Gospel in the OPC (113).

The OPC long ago ceased to proclaim the one true Gospel to the exclusion of all false gospels (115).

I guess that this ex-"ruling elder" will split the OPC numbers down from 27,000 odd to 3 or 4 and there will be the AOPC, the RPOPC and the ELOPC or more sub-cults.

Woohooo, and the OPC cult was formed barely 80 years ago! The half-life of heresies is getting shorter and shorter. it took 500 years for the implosion to occur in the ELCA and ECUSA and PCUSA and MCUSA but now the OPC implodes in 80.

In contrast, thanks to the grace of the Holy SPirit, the Church has survived (despite the best efforts of the enemy without and within to destroy it), for 2000 years.

[1000 silverlings]

I find it rather interesting that the mockery and derision of this as a possibility comes from the camp who sees images of Christ or Mary in things like stains on floors, burnt toast, or tree bark. Any people’s ready to believe that kind of nonsense is more than ripe for believing in alien abduction. Catholicism does little or nothing to protect its adherents from superstitious nonsense.

but it's our toast and our images, nothing wrong with it. OUR beliefs, the collective's