Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
No, doesn't help because... first of all if Christ death brings one forgiveness of their sin.....and afterwards we go to him when aware of sin ....then you're saying all is well....correct?
So you're further saying that if we don't repent then we are to be judged on the sin we did not repent of? If so then once we are judged quilty of that sin unrepentant of...then what? What will follow and the consequence of that sin being judged as guilty?
I do not take or eschew action at the bidding of the likes of you.
and stop breaking them.
I do not take or eschew action at the bidding of the likes of you.
Your witless defense of your faith
Is so awesomely awesome that you have to resort to personal attacks.
simply illustrates Rome does not prepare Christians but malcontents.
Not really - it just makes non Catholics realize the paucity of non Christian faith.
Boy, this would be about as fine a line as one could cut, half on one side, half on the other:
But your ugly, lying, foul, disgusting remarks on this thread need to be called out for what they are -- insanity.
And:
So I posted to him Wikipedia's entry on "alcoholism."
Nothing personal intended, of course.
I do know the rules. As I said before, a post can follow the rules and violate the spirit and vice-versa. Putting the word "post" or "remarks" near the words "ugly, lying, foul, disgusting, idiotic, stupid, lies and venom" follows the rules, but nothing more.
What happens is sow and reap, inside and outside the rules, on both sides.
Now, have we both broken the rule about making the thread about an individual freeper?
No, doesn't help because... first of all if Christ death brings one forgiveness of their sin.....and afterwards we go to him when aware of sin ....
Think of all the Gospel exhortations to repent of sin. If you repent of the sin that you have done, then Jesus has taken the atonement for that on the Cross. If you have not, then, what we believe is that the atonement is not there - if you cannot repent, then Jesus did not atone for it.
So you're further saying that if we don't repent then we are to be judged on the sin we did not repent of? If so then once we are judged quilty of that sin unrepentant of...then what? What will follow and the consequence of that sin being judged as guilty?
Matthew 25 is most eloquent. Hellfire and damnation forever.
You forgot to whine to the RM. :) That invalidates this entire post.
Well then that means when he said “It is finished” it only covers some of our sins... the sins we have repented of? Further that if we are not aware of those sins...or are struggling to overcome them..then until that sin is fully repented of we most assuredly are in danger of hell? Is that what you’re saying?
Wow, I don't know how you put up with this garbage.
God Bless you.
They condemn themselves.
Mark, it is YOU who should be concerned about FR. You are the one making up false accusations and then posting them on this conservative site and RM forum. You did the same to Quix.
Did you apologize to Dr E. yet?
I'm sorry she's who she is. Does that count?
I'm sure that the losers from the high school student council have barraged the RM with whining about the nasty Catholic who dares to make them feel uncomfortable. Are you part of that or do they keep you out front acting as security? When do you expect to be admitted into their inner circle?
Master Quix acts as the front spokesman and is grateful for it, right, Quix? I'm sure that he's grateful. Correct me if I'm wrong.
yes, ordinarily I'd say "turn the other cheek" but having been accused of being a sodomite I would note that that's not the best analogy, so suffice it to say:
they have confused both Eckleburg and me with their clergy
The price that Jesus paid covers all sins, but if you do not repent, then He says that you will not attain salvation. That is one of the problems that Catholics have with most brands of the Protestants; we believe that you must repent of your sins - if there are sins that you do not know of, then a general repentence is called for. Nothing perfect will enter the Kingdom of Heaven; how will each person attain that perfection who is saved?
Just a couple of problems with your posting:
1) It is an obligation that you ping those you name or discuss. I have heard you rails against those not doing this where you are involved. Is this another instance in which you think the rules don't apply to you because FR recognizes your status as one of the "elect"?
2) Your time-line is significantly off. I didn't disclose that my parents were alcoholics until well after I had posted the "cheers" comment.
3) The RM has already advised me that the posting was making this personal and I obliged. Do you feel the mods are so remiss that you have to are obliged pile on?
4) You used the word Rome in this posting........Cheers!
“If I didn’t know better, I’d think someone just called you insane.”
It was probably an accurate diagnosis drawn from his inane ramblings on this thread. To paraphrase the principal’s statement to Billy Madison, “MarkBsnr, what you’ve posted on this thread are the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent posts were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this thread is now dumber for having endured them. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”
I know, I know, I know, but we're saved and clearly most of them are not. They don't even know The Gospel.
Insane and filthy.......and in Jim's house. LOL
I can think of a number of probably aspects of RC life that would encourage such:
STATIONS OF THE WHITE HANKY:
1. Icon to bearing false witness
2. The black/white icon of duplicity, the double standard dance
3. The icon to the doctrine of—when all else fails—kill the messenger.
4. Icon to chronically changing the subject
5. Icon of obfuscations to the supreme degree
6. Icon of the rubber bible
7. Icon of the rubber history texts
8. Icon of the rubber daffynitionary
9. Icon of the rubber logic text
10. Icon of hubris to the supreme degree
11. Icon of the fickle fingers groping for any explanation but the truth
12. Icon to the unholy flip-flops in word meanings and arguments
13. Icon to the kill-the-messenger-in-worshipful-behalf-of-Mary strategy
14. Icon to the fantasized divine right, to be correct, pristinely sanctified & perfectly flawless in all respects in all cases all the time, regardless.
15. Icon to chronic & obsessive inconsistency.
16. Icon to the rc rabid clique trolling ritual
17. Icon to the undivine right of terminal snootiness to the max.
18. Icon to the selective-slice-n-dice samba reading of the early Christian writers.
19. Icon to the haughty tyrannical !!!!DEMAND!!!! for an apology for imagined wrongs that never happened.
20. The half size gold projector Icon to the psychodynamic defense of PROJECTION
Where did I accuse you of being a sodomite? Put up now.
Thanks for your kind thoughtfulness.
GOD KNOWS I DIDN’T DO WHAT I WAS ACCUSED OF.
He keeps far better score than anyone.
He also insures that we all reap what we sow.
I sure wouldn’t want to be reaping from all the lying and bearing false witness that’s gone on, on this thread the last several days.
Evidently the RC’s are trying very hard to up the ante to get the thread pulled.
More of their immoral skull-duggery, Standard Operating Procedures from many centuries running.
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