Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
All those that have willing hearts will be adopted, the question is who will, will to come???
So, it's an action of the will. Hmmmm
So it is indeed up to me whether I affirm Salvation (adoption) or reject it based upon the freewill that God gave every person since Adam at the price of Original Sin.
All the time asking the question "Did God really say...?"
> “Is anyone ever denied adoption who genuinely seeks it?”
> “Does that then mean that the works of seeking to be ‘adopted’ are the real deciding factor?”
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That is all answered definitively in John 6:
[37] All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
[39] And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
[40] And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
44] No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
As you can see, works have absolutely nothing to do with it. It was the Father that drew you to the son.
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This is a classic if / then statement:
If I cometh to Him I will no wise be cast out. What happens if I don't?
If I seeth the Son, and believeth on Him, I will be raised up. What happens if I don't see or believe?
How is a requirement for me to "cometh, seeth and believeth" not an obligation upon me to perform works to achieve Salvation?
No, I read serious bible scholars and theologians only who work full time at recognized universities and not some TV charlatans.
I wouldn't necessarily see God becoming human as "A form" for He of course has no comparison to wood and metal images/idols "forms" designed and molded by men...rather an exact representation of God...Christ is God. But I can see Israel having a problem with the incarnation..of course, Actually there are Christians who don't quite get this.
As for the "word becoming flesh and forever separating Christians from Jews", (as you stated), The Jews were first to hear from Christ..."He came unto His own"...many Jews did believe in Him and Jesus himself was Jewish...but we as Gentiles were "grafted/adopted" in. The Jews are blinded only until the fullness of the Gentiles is complete...and when Christ returns they will see Him as their Messiah.
I'm of the mind the Messianic Jews will go thru the Tribulation and preach Christ...it seems might be the 144,000 of Rev. So no, they are not "forever separated" from Christ, just blinded, and that for our sake or we would have no hope..... ...God has always reserved a remnant of Jews who He protects and that will be so as the years pass into endtimes events unfolding.
As for artistic drawings and images cast...fine to consider as art for those who appreciate this type of Art. But that is all they are for me..art. Way too much nudity for my taste!
> “How is a requirement for me to “cometh, seeth and believeth” not an obligation upon me to perform works to achieve Salvation?”
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Its not a requirement; it is a fact that you will.
[37] “All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.”
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It is the work of the Father, not yours. You didn’t come to the son by your own motives, but the Father’s motives. He chose you; you didn’t choose him. Had it been up to you, you’d have been lost. That is why the Father did it.
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> “No, I read serious bible scholars and theologians only who work full time at recognized universities and not some TV charlatans.”
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Those ‘serious’ scholars are mostly lost, and trying hard to get you lost. They don’t know the Lord, and he doesn’t know them. they are caught up in the “wisdom of men” which is foolishness to God.
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As long as their prayers for me aren't wasted ...
The problem with your Holy Spirit denying post is simple:
The Toronto Church declares Christ, come in the flesh, as required in 1John.
All events are attributed to the Holy Spirit with thanksgiving.
The Hindi thank false gods for their “blessings.’
I thought that you guys belived that there are no willing hearts - either you are predestined to be adopted or, in the case of the majority, you are predestined to burn in hellfire forever.
Given the theologies we have met with here, it would be more appropriate that what you guys claim as Christ's church would meet in crop circles and seances.
But that is all they are for me..art. Way too much nudity for my taste!
LOL ! Oddly enough it's the OT scenes that have the most nudity...
Thanks for your reply.
So in addition to your many other gifts you are now the judge of people's soul? Does this mean all of those ministers with their PhD's are all ungodly charlatans? I'm sure vast numbers of congregants are bowing down to your superior wisdom.
That would likely be your personal false christ that meets in your crop circle.
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The *Reformed* are a bunch of concern trolls who will deny that they judge anyone, but they're worried all Catholics (except for a very very few) are going to hell.
Unless I can just lay back and let it (Salvation) happen to me against my will or without knowledge, or I believe that Calvinist hooey about being elect since before I was born, I actually have to get up and do something. Sounds like works to me.
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